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Posted on: May 31, 2018 at 10:36:19 CT
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But it does represent a distant taxing entity that uses the tax money to exert its own form of control.

So, for purposes of the conversation we are having in this thread, yes.
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Samantha Bee called Ivanka a feckless c*nt. Still working. - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/31 09:46:43
     Samantha Bee is a vulgar unfunny slob... - mizzoumurfkc MU - 5/31 10:50:19
          You better not work for ABC - mu7176grad MU - 5/31 11:06:19
               ABC got what they deserved hiring a - mizzoumurfkc MU - 5/31 11:12:29
          RE: Samantha Bee is a vulgar unfunny slob... - MOCO SON MU - 5/31 11:04:35
               What does someone - mizzoumurfkc MU - 5/31 11:26:20
                    Yeah. That was really sexist. - Alferd Packer MU - 5/31 11:39:33
                         Hahaha y'all are down with - mizzoumurfkc MU - 5/31 11:45:58
          Why? Nm - redngray MU - 5/31 10:52:17
               RE: Why? Nm - mizzoumurfkc MU - 5/31 10:58:12
                    Ignorant white people only tho. - Badird MU - 5/31 11:02:46
                         And yeah they called the Irish apes - mizzoumurfkc MU - 5/31 11:07:41
                              I just disagree that 'ignorant white people' are the only - Badird MU - 5/31 11:11:51
                                   Again, I never said only white people - mizzoumurfkc MU - 5/31 11:18:20
                                   yeah we can't get mad when blacks call us saltines/mayo - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 11:13:59
                                        Awww is the black man keeping the rag down? - mizzoumurfkc MU - 5/31 12:01:52
                         I never said only - mizzoumurfkc MU - 5/31 11:04:51
                    what if they referred to an Irish person as an ape? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 11:02:22
                         RE: what if they referred to an Irish person as an ape? - mizzoumurfkc MU - 5/31 11:10:09
                              If Ivanka were transgendered - redngray MU - 5/31 11:16:42
                                   Wouldn't that just make her - mizzoumurfkc MU - 5/31 11:22:36
               vulgarity =/= racism. - Badird MU - 5/31 10:56:33
                    truth (nm) - Hamdogg KC - 5/31 11:06:39
                    What did the tweet say? (nm) - Kaw-djer - 5/31 11:01:46
                    RE: vulgarity =/= racism. - mizzoumurfkc MU - 5/31 10:59:20
                         How any group - redngray MU - 5/31 11:02:03
                              RE: How any group - mizzoumurfkc MU - 5/31 11:04:05
     yep just like Kimmel's days on the man show - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:17:56
     Seems accurate. - Rabbit Test MU - 5/31 10:17:44
     Your gal would likely still have her show if she'd merely - tigerdb MU - 5/31 10:15:43
     SamBee is part of the resistance. Name calling is an - hokie VT - 5/31 10:10:05
          You have no room to complain about name calling. (nm) - Kaw-djer - 5/31 10:11:51
     I love false equivalencies (nm) - Hamdogg KC - 5/31 10:06:46
          False equivalency because - Alferd Packer MU - 5/31 10:27:58
               RE: False equivalency because - mizzoumurfkc MU - 5/31 10:48:08
               no, one was a racist insult the other is just an - Hamdogg KC - 5/31 10:28:36
                    Yeah, that makes it ok - mizzouSECedes STL - 5/31 11:44:02
                    What was the racist insult? (nm) - Kaw-djer - 5/31 10:56:21
                    Utterly, incredibly stupid - redngray MU - 5/31 10:50:59
                         yes, a non racist insult is better than a racist insult - Hamdogg KC - 5/31 10:56:11
                              That’s completely subjective - redngray MU - 5/31 10:59:57
                                   typical conserv, unabashed racist (nm) - Hamdogg KC - 5/31 11:05:46
                                        So when it comes down to it - redngray MU - 5/31 11:14:03
                    Like I said - Alferd Packer MU - 5/31 10:35:42
                         So the right approves of racist insults - TheShoe STL - 5/31 10:37:09
                              Your inability at simple logic is so noted.... again. - Alferd Packer MU - 5/31 11:11:16
                                   You inability to use your native language properly is noted(nm) - TheShoe STL - 5/31 11:18:04
                                        That doesn't follow. - Alferd Packer MU - 5/31 11:43:40
                              not at all what he suggested - FootballRefugee MU - 5/31 10:42:59
                                   yeah, it is.(nm) - Hamdogg KC - 5/31 10:45:03
     I don't know anything about Ivanka. - Kaw-djer - 5/31 09:59:48
          That her father is Donald Trump - Spanky KU - 5/31 10:11:57
               The buffoon isn't a conservative... - mizzoumurfkc MU - 5/31 10:53:53
               Thanks. I didn't know RHAYWORTH is a liberal. (nm) - Kaw-djer - 5/31 10:14:41
                    No, I identify myself has a majestic genius fire dragon. - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/31 10:30:31
          Must be her pro-choice stance(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/31 10:02:49
               yeah, she really climbs on the soap box preaching that...(nm) - Hamdogg KC - 5/31 10:07:13
     It's time to decentralize power. (nm) - ummmm MU - 5/31 09:48:37
          Civil war Ringo?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 09:54:48
               No, secession and decentralization. - ummmm MU - 5/31 09:56:47
                    no but it is likely with secession - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 09:59:04
                         There is always the chance that a maniacal big govt leader - ummmm MU - 5/31 10:01:49
                              Because the balkanization of America would be great(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:05:38
                                   Isn't the US a voluntary union of fifty entities? (nm) - Kaw-djer - 5/31 10:11:19
                                   Decentralization of power would be great indeed. - ummmm MU - 5/31 10:07:22
                                        I'm all for decentralization to an extent - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:11:28
                                             The colonies seceded from England. (nm) - Kaw-djer - 5/31 10:13:35
                                                  Do you know why?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:15:13
                                                       To not be controlled by distant govts? (nm) - ummmm MU - 5/31 10:21:57
                                                            very good! that was indeed part of it - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:23:37
                                                                 Well, let's start with that one. - ummmm MU - 5/31 10:31:28
                                                                      Do you think the relationship between the US federal - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:33:36
                                                                           It is not the exact same. - ummmm MU - 5/31 10:36:19
                                                                                Then I can't help you any further, you've slipped back into - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:38:10
                                                                                     You haven't helped at all. You still haven't answered the - ummmm MU - 5/31 10:43:11
                                                                                          I'm tryin Ringo, I'm tryin real hard - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:48:26
                                                                                               I answered that directly. You have not returned the favor.(nm) - ummmm MU - 5/31 10:55:04
                                                                                                    now you're just being dishonest(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:56:56
                                                                                                         Answer this: - ummmm MU - 5/31 10:59:41
                                                                                               Were the colonies trying to take over and rule England? - Kaw-djer - 5/31 10:51:49
                                                                                                    He's in a box, and he won't answer. (nm) - ummmm MU - 5/31 10:55:28
                                                                                                         lol Jesus(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:57:25
                                                       "the idea of secession is just stupid" - Kaw-djer - 5/31 10:19:17
                                                            yes pickle in the context of the US it is stupid - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:21:54
                                                                 "the idea of secession is just stupid" is an absolute - Kaw-djer - 5/31 10:23:11
                                                                      no pickle, think context - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:24:11
                                                                           We've been asking for the context, but you've gone vague. - ummmm MU - 5/31 10:32:29
                                                                                I'm employing the socratic method with you today - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:36:01
                                                                                     "the idea of secession is just stupid" (nm) - Kaw-djer - 5/31 10:42:34
                                                                                          "in context"(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:50:16
                                                                                               in the context of the US the colonies seceded (nm) - Kaw-djer - 5/31 10:54:22
                                                                                     No, you are avoiding discussion by being vague. - ummmm MU - 5/31 10:37:13
                                                                                          I'm trying to get you to think critically - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:38:57
                                                                                               You're not doing that. You're avoiding giving an answer - ummmm MU - 5/31 10:43:49
                                                                           "the idea of secession is just stupid" is an aboslute - Kaw-djer - 5/31 10:25:07
                                                                                so it is written, so shall it be(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:29:29
                                                                                     You wrote it. (nm) - Kaw-djer - 5/31 10:30:59
                                             Yeah, how would we ever live without feeling some control - ummmm MU - 5/31 10:12:54
                                                  Yeah, having "control" over other states isn't the issue - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:14:33
                                                       What is the issue? (nm) - Kaw-djer - 5/31 10:15:08
                                                            That's a good topic for you to contemplate(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:15:54
                                                                 I can't pretend to know what's in your head - Kaw-djer - 5/31 10:20:00
                         It isn't. He just explained what civil war is (nm) - Kaw-djer - 5/31 10:01:00
                              you're right, we've never seen secession lead to civil war(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/31 10:04:39
                                   That's correct. (nm) - Kaw-djer - 5/31 10:10:32
                                   Secessions never lead to a civil war. - ummmm MU - 5/31 10:06:08




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