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Posted on: May 3, 2018 at 16:07:00 CT
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thought. Bernie is a bad champion for the Dems, IMO.

We dont want free education for all; too many people go to college as it is. There are thousands of unfilled 'blue collar' jobs that pay better than most entry-level bachelor's positions. And they have as good or better than the average career trajectory. Kids dont want to go to trade school, however.

We dont want guaranteed jobs for all, thats the opposite of what we know works. There are jobs for all right now if you look for them. How many times do Dems complain that we need illegal immigrants to harvest our crops? And while streamlining temporary work visas is a discussion for another day, its a real problem. The real problem is, Americans dont want those jobs. Things arent bad enough for the unemployed, in other words.

Medicare for all? I dont know. I have reservations but I understand that preventing illness is cheaper than treating it indefinitely. Id like to see how the costs work out and how they plan to fund it.

But heres the kicker: ALL of these plans help the poor or lower 35% of people. How do they plan to claim the undecided middle class? Why should they be so narrowly focused on the poor?

Edited by Badird at 16:08:05 on 05/03/18
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          Oh yeah, can't wait for even more taxing, spending, - GA Tiger MU - 5/3 17:08:25
     The election will be decided by events - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/3 14:42:46
          Lol. You really have the 2018 and 2020 Dem platform - MrBlueSky MU - 5/3 15:11:30
               So far it appears to be "We aren't Trump" - LimerNick MU - 5/3 15:16:11
                    That should be their platform. Pretty much every position - tgr MU - 5/3 16:49:18
                    Because you're not paying attention. - StaleyTiger MU - 5/3 15:27:37
                         Sure I am... - LimerNick MU - 5/3 15:47:02
                              Medicare for all is the big democrat push right now. - StaleyTiger MU - 5/3 16:01:08
                                   Medicare is the big push? - LimerNick MU - 5/3 16:34:53
                                   Both are massive undertakings and should require additional - Badird MU - 5/3 16:07:00
                                        They are massive undertakings but they are ideas - StaleyTiger MU - 5/3 16:17:02
                                             I would not say the Dem party is unified behind these. - Badird MU - 5/3 17:26:43
                              Its refreshing to see this. I agree 100%. - Badird MU - 5/3 15:55:06
                              there is no national platform for dems other than "anti - 90Tiger MU - 5/3 15:51:13
                                   As usual, your love to paint with broad brush strokes - MrBlueSky MU - 5/3 16:19:04
                                   This is not accurate. Oversimplification.(nm) - kcnorthside KC - 5/3 16:16:58
          Gas Prices - JayHoaxH8r MU - 5/3 14:39:39
               Trump should end the summer blend requirements - tman KC - 5/3 15:03:05
               & liberals will drop gas prices? (nm) - JeffB MU - 5/3 14:42:21
                    Trump and GOP in charge now son - JayHoaxH8r MU - 5/3 14:43:09
                         so, you have nothing - FootballRefugee MU - 5/3 14:44:23
                              Indeed. They plummeted by record amounts just before - JayHoaxH8r MU - 5/3 14:46:08
                                   so you agree connecting POTUS with gas prices is - 90Tiger MU - 5/3 14:57:44
                                   in other words, it doesn't matter - FootballRefugee MU - 5/3 14:55:12
                    and if they do, will that help lower greenhouse gases? (nm) - JeffB MU - 5/3 14:43:00




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