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'There is nothing wrong with passing along raw intelligence

Posted on: February 12, 2018 at 13:32:49 CT
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and saying it needs further investigation. Is there?'

I think that depends upon the circumstances surrounding it. In this particular case I think there were major problems in doing so.

Getting FISA warrants to spy on US citizens should have a very high threshhold for probability of crimes having been committed or that are about to be committed. In this case the FBI violated their own rules in using unverified allegations to apply for such warrants and withheld critical information from the FISA court when they applied for it. It certainly appears that the did so because they knew that the court would have been more likely to turn down their request if they had told them the full truth. Withholding the truth is sub-optimal at best, no?

Added to that, the clear bias of some of the key investigators on this case (& Hillary's) is a cause for concern, no? The danger of having government spies spying on US citizens with the intent of thwarting the will of the voters is a HUGE risk in a democracy, no?
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     The Steele dossier was about 1% of - catbirdseat MU - 2/12 13:34:13
          Complete and utter BS. nm. - MUTGR MU - 2/12 17:09:55
          Please provide some backup of that statement - kp83 MU - 2/12 14:00:17
          and your evidence for that is...? (nm) - JeffB MU - 2/12 13:37:12
          false - 90Tiger MU - 2/12 13:36:12
               A lot of the left's narrative surrounding the Nunes memo - Sal KC - 2/12 13:37:50
                    "the left's narrative" is fairytale bull$hit mitigation and - 90Tiger MU - 2/12 13:42:58
                         That is becoming all too apparent. (nm) - JeffB MU - 2/12 14:24:54
          According to who? - Sal KC - 2/12 13:34:48
     Ok so what parts are not true? - JG A - 2/12 13:24:45
          To get a warrant to spy on an American citizen yes there - MUTGR MU - 2/12 13:36:36
          'There is nothing wrong with passing along raw intelligence - JeffB MU - 2/12 13:32:49
               I HAVE SAID REPEATEDLY - JG A - 2/12 13:56:20
          JG, the FISC doesn't issue warrants to spy on US - 90Tiger MU - 2/12 13:32:41
               Correct - DC Jayhawk KU - 2/12 14:24:05
                    If any unverified information was used - Sal KC - 2/12 15:00:19
                         You keep getting stuck on the idea - DC Jayhawk KU - 2/12 15:03:20
                              No I'm not - Sal KC - 2/12 15:04:24
                                   It hasn't been established - DC Jayhawk KU - 2/12 15:11:04
                                        you're in an embarrassing posture here, DC. unlike - 90Tiger MU - 2/12 17:08:58
                                        Yes it has - Sal KC - 2/12 15:16:36
                    The FBI clearly withheld critical information from the FISA - JeffB MU - 2/12 14:47:11
                         Actually those are Nunes' words - DC Jayhawk KU - 2/12 15:00:06
                              Nunes is not the only one making that claim (nm) - Sal KC - 2/12 15:00:58
               Apperently it does - JG A - 2/12 13:53:05
                    The threshold is lower to obtain a FISA warrant - Sal KC - 2/12 15:01:54
                    this is you inadvertently granting the point - the FBI - 90Tiger MU - 2/12 14:05:35
                         You are spectacularly missing the real point - JG A - 2/12 14:09:20
                              Just b/c you think it's abusive - Sal KC - 2/12 15:03:22
                              No, that's common ground and obvious and doesn't alter - 90Tiger MU - 2/12 14:53:38
          Not how it works. Allegations have to be proven true.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/12 13:26:27
               Except you are saying they don't - JG A - 2/12 13:53:44
               It's a disturbing new trend - Sal KC - 2/12 13:30:37
                    Its not new and its not disturbing to the hacks - JG A - 2/12 13:57:17
                    especially when requesting a warrant from FISC???? - 90Tiger MU - 2/12 13:34:44
                         Correct, using unverified information - Sal KC - 2/12 13:35:52
     Correct, Steele didn't verify any of it - Sal KC - 2/12 13:23:21
          Yahoo 'News' verified it by talking to Steele - Spanky KU - 2/12 13:24:19
               Wrong again lying simpleton - JG A - 2/12 13:26:20
                    WRONG - kp83 MU - 2/12 14:02:18
                         Damn you are stupid Toro - JG A - 2/12 14:05:09
                    Which, was then used to as proof memo was true. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/12 13:35:43
                         No - JG A - 2/12 13:50:13
                    The memo was published by Nunes... Yahoo verified nothing - Spanky KU - 2/12 13:34:25
                         LOL it was, is news - JG A - 2/12 13:43:23
                              No..it was then, and still is, GOSSIP paid for by the DNC - Spanky KU - 2/12 13:45:43
                                   You can be this dense - JG A - 2/12 13:50:49
                                        Do you think the Steele Dossier is news? Please point - Spanky KU - 2/12 14:07:01
                                             You are pigheaded stubborn - JG A - 2/12 14:10:13
                                                  Whatsamatter? Cat got your tongue? - Spanky KU - 2/12 14:25:35
                                                       You really are stupid man - JG A - 2/12 14:34:50
     But..but.. but.... Yahoo News!!!! - Spanky KU - 2/12 13:21:21




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