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a good first step - recognizing their are two entities here:

Posted on: December 5, 2017 at 10:37:04 CT
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rights and what the govt "bestows" upon you.

Correct, that which govt issues are not natural rights.

Good job!!


The confusion sets in with the common use of the word "rights".

A true "right" does not require someone else to provide something. (education, food, et al).
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The Constitution: universal rights. Class in session - pickle MU - 12/5 09:57:10
     You are incorrect. There are legal rights and natural rights - Spanky KU - 12/5 10:31:03
          a good first step - recognizing their are two entities here: - 90Tiger MU - 12/5 10:37:04
               You should address that to pickle - Spanky KU - 12/5 10:38:27
                    Legal rights are not rights. - ummmm MU - 12/5 11:23:01
                         You are wrong... Legal rights are rights - Spanky KU - 12/5 12:26:53
                              After all this time, you still don't get it. - ummmm MU - 12/5 12:45:01
                    sigh (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/5 10:48:58
                         'The Constitution does not bestow rights upon people; rights - Spanky KU - 12/5 10:58:02
                              Photo of pickle posing with his loyal subjects... - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/5 11:21:00
          The Constitution doesn't bestow rights (nm) - pickle MU - 12/5 10:34:36
     Why isn't Somalia's Constitution invoked here? - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/5 10:07:32
          In the Church of Pickle everyone is blessed with Natural - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/5 10:13:32
               forget about "natural" rights for 1 second. the point here - 90Tiger MU - 12/5 10:17:24
                    I agree largely but we as citizens of the US have the right - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/5 10:22:24
                         you also have the right to defend yourself from a) - 90Tiger MU - 12/5 10:30:57
                         ok? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/5 10:30:20
                              You should know as a disciple of the Church of Pickle - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/5 10:31:49
                                   again, take it up with the guys in the wigs, not pickle. - 90Tiger MU - 12/5 10:32:41
                                        I don't have anything to take up with the wigs - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/5 10:44:49
                                             no, it really isn't. you're conflating pickle's A-C world - 90Tiger MU - 12/5 10:52:30
                    Dickle doesn’t believe in government - Ferg STL - 12/5 10:22:19
                         because it's a political topic here and one many don't - 90Tiger MU - 12/5 10:31:56
                         Here: - pickle MU - 12/5 10:29:18
                              In other words... you’re a know it all that can’t - Ferg STL - 12/5 10:36:24
                                   RE: In other words... you’re a know it all that can’t - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/5 11:22:11
                                   It's a direct answer to your question - pickle MU - 12/5 10:43:35
          the US constitution governs the actions of the US govt - 90Tiger MU - 12/5 10:10:50
          You misunderstand - pickle MU - 12/5 10:09:58
     RE: The Constitution: universal rights. Class in session - MUTGR MU - 12/5 10:05:53
          Yep, that's the preamble (nm) - pickle MU - 12/5 10:06:42
     zzzzzzzzzzz (nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/5 10:03:03
     First mistake: The Constitution is not explicit on - GA Tiger MU - 12/5 10:02:07
          what mistake are you pointing out? it isn't "protection" - - 90Tiger MU - 12/5 10:12:08
          What mistake? - pickle MU - 12/5 10:04:40
     ^^Preaching his religion(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 12/5 10:01:58
          The US constitution? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/5 10:12:22
     There is no such thing as a valid constitution - tman KC - 12/5 10:01:00
          Because many here, including "Constitutionalists", do - pickle MU - 12/5 10:05:36




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