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a Tom Crean rebuild would take at least 4 years. He's not a

Posted on: January 31, 2017 at 16:41:04 CT
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good enough recruiter to pull it off any faster than that. In fact, he's really not a good recruiter at all.

Look at how long it took him at Indiana — with their blue-blood advantages and resources — to rebuild a cratered program.

And his early success at Marquette was primarily due to bringing in "Prop 48" players that other teams wouldn't take (similar to NU and KSU in the old days). As TigerUppercut explains:


"[Crean is] supposedly not that dirty, although he did make his name with Prop 48 kids at Marquette that a lot of other programs wouldn't take (DWade being an example). That's another mark against him, because that glitch doesn't exist anymore."


If you want a rebuild that takes until the 2022-23 season (if it happens at all), a coach who's extremely inconsistent and normally has a big drop-off after winning seasons, a less-than-stellar recruiter, and someone who's considered by many to have a creepy and/or awkward personality, then Crean is your guy.

I'd rather have someone who can potentially turn this thing around in 2-3 years — especially someone who is regarded as a good recruiter to rapidly infuse some talent in our program.
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a Tom Crean rebuild would take at least 4 years. He's not a - JoplinTiger07 MU - 1/31 16:41:04
     I'm sure that Crean could easily get Mizzou hoops back to - tigerdb MU - 1/31 16:58:25
     But I think you get the hope on day 1. - ColoradoBlueTiger MU - 1/31 16:51:45
     Maybe a dumb question, but what is considered a rebuild? Is - Fool on the Hill MU - 1/31 16:49:45
          Generally speaking, getting back to the NCAA tournament is - JoplinTiger07 MU - 1/31 16:53:17
               I agree about us, but I don't think blue bloods care about - Eggs MU - 1/31 16:59:36
                    Want to hear a crazy stat. Excluding 2008-09, over the last - FIJItiger MU - 1/31 17:02:00
                         Why exclude an Elite 8 run? And if not for the Norfolk State - JoplinTiger07 MU - 1/31 17:15:13
                              Florida was going to be a tough out. I had a bad feeling - Uncle John MU - 1/31 17:23:03
                                   Yes, but definitely a game we could have won. NM - JoplinTiger07 MU - 1/31 17:34:05
                              At the same time, the Quin team that made the elite 8 - Eggs MU - 1/31 17:18:21
                              To make my point (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/31 17:16:01
                         Good Lord. That's awful. (nm) - Lerxst MU - 1/31 17:13:20
                         Yup, even with Norm's struggles in the tournament - Eggs MU - 1/31 17:12:22
                              Ironically enough, Crean knocked us out in 2003 - FIJItiger MU - 1/31 17:16:43
                                   I remember that game well, as it was my first year at MU. - JoplinTiger07 MU - 1/31 17:33:35
                                        Ricky Paulding was superior to Wade (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/31 17:34:57
     I assume no matter who we hire a rebuild will take 4 yrs - FIJItiger MU - 1/31 16:43:28
          Dont give kim 3 but give new guy 4? - chokingmychickenhawk MU - 1/31 18:45:20
          I could see the right coach doing it in 2 years - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/31 16:50:50
               That would be an amazing turn of events, certainly - FIJItiger MU - 1/31 16:51:51
                    No, 2 years is pretty standard for rebuilds, and the - JoplinTiger07 MU - 1/31 16:54:22
                         There is nothing 'standard' about this. It will be one of - FIJItiger MU - 1/31 16:55:43
                              it doesn't take that much to turn a hoops program around - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/31 17:12:40
                                   Yes it does. It will be much harder than you predict(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/31 17:17:22
                                        Not if Sterk makes a good hire - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/31 18:01:17
          Our players are NOT awful and will be experienced by - JoplinTiger07 MU - 1/31 16:45:52
               Our players are terrible. Good players don't win 5 games - tgr MU - 1/31 16:54:52
                    With a good coach, this team would go .500 - JoplinTiger07 MU - 1/31 16:55:20
                         No, but they would win at least 8-12 games(nm) - tigerdb MU - 1/31 17:25:50
                              at least 12 with a good coach. NM - JoplinTiger07 MU - 1/31 17:32:57
                         Yeah right man lol - nerdmachine KC - 1/31 17:12:24
               No they are awful.(nm) - Shrine Devine MU - 1/31 16:50:00
               There is nobody in the world we could hire which would - FIJItiger MU - 1/31 16:47:23
                    15-16 wins. That's terrible, but not historically-awful like - JoplinTiger07 MU - 1/31 16:51:35
                         Isn't Crean a better coach and recruiter than Cuonzo? - FIJItiger MU - 1/31 16:54:17
                              Better coach? Maybe. But Cuonzo is regarded as a much - JoplinTiger07 MU - 1/31 16:56:02
                                   I don't follow recruiting much, but I would have thought - FIJItiger MU - 1/31 16:59:24
                                        No, he's regarded as someone who relies heavily on - JoplinTiger07 MU - 1/31 17:04:56
                                             Recruiting is mostly about your assistants anyway, and - FIJItiger MU - 1/31 17:07:10
                                                  My preference is toward good recruiter, as long as he is - JoplinTiger07 MU - 1/31 17:10:40
                                                       I think you are way overselling Martin's recruiting based - FIJItiger MU - 1/31 17:14:56
                                                            You know what, you might be right to a degree about that. - JoplinTiger07 MU - 1/31 17:32:05




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