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It doesn't sound as bad when you phrase it in Orwellian

Posted on: July 24, 2016 at 17:17:23 CT
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terms, but I don't think that our Founding Fathers would be happy with where our country has devolved to at the moment.

For the record, I'm all for our police given the necessary training, equipment and logistical and political support to do their jobs and to be as reasonably safe in doing so as possible. BUT, I think that the recent federal supplying of the police with military equipment is a symptom of how far our country has fallen... that such equipping is necessary in the first place, and an indication of where we are heading.

I think our government is out of control, doing stupid things, and is gearing up for a lot more unrest that they are anticipating in the near future. I also believe that police are pawns in all of this. I think most are honest, hard working and courageous and want to do the right things, such as to keep law and order and protect the average law-abiding citizen.

Our Founding Fathers would have wanted local police to be able to protect themselves, but they were clearly worried about the very common and most disastrous problem of protecting citizens from the government. From their viewpoint, and I think they were correct, the natural order of things was for government to grow in power and to become totalitarian with the citizens becoming helpless in the face of overwhelming government power.

We have moved significantly in that direction, and this is one obvious example of it.
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and there it is - pickle MU - 7/24 13:39:09
     They don't need that - Sal KC - 7/24 15:34:30
          That would be an intelligent way to start. (nm) - JeffB MU - 7/24 17:23:41
          no thanks (nm) - pickle MU - 7/24 15:53:59
     Why should gubmint have mo' betta' than the citizens? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/24 14:32:32
          what the hell is military grade riot equipment? - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 7/24 14:42:11
               The only thing close to police forces being "militarized" - Sal KC - 7/24 15:39:21
          Well now iffin the gubmint were the citizens instead of - Uncle Fester USMC - 7/24 14:39:56
     that's good news - Ferg STL - 7/24 14:19:48
          what is good news? - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 7/24 14:22:05
               This - Ferg STL - 7/24 14:29:16
                    They already have helmuts and grenade launchers - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 7/24 14:35:58
                         They also have microwave guns and sound cannons - Uncle Fester USMC - 7/24 14:42:12
                              Seems like non-lethal crowd control to me - Sal KC - 7/24 15:38:21
                              Do you have any good defenses for those in The Bunkerâ„¢? (nm) - JeffB MU - 7/24 15:07:20
                                   ninja cats(nm) - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 7/24 15:12:56
                              Maybe so, but that - Ferg STL - 7/24 14:53:11
     What? Common sense? - Spanky KU - 7/24 13:46:22
          I doubt that's the type of common sense police force our - JeffB MU - 7/24 13:53:09
               Do you think our Founding Fathers were as well - Sal KC - 7/24 16:18:44
                    Did Our Founding Fathers give overwhelming weapons to - JeffB MU - 7/24 17:23:03
                         You glossed over the question - Sal KC - 7/24 17:42:39
                              It should be up to the local communities, not to a massive - JeffB MU - 7/24 17:57:30
                                   Local police still have to come up with the budget - Sal KC - 7/24 18:03:04
                                        They're sending military surplus gear to various towns - JeffB MU - 7/24 18:42:42
               one that has adequate protection from the bad guy? - Spanky KU - 7/24 15:34:30
                    It doesn't sound as bad when you phrase it in Orwellian - JeffB MU - 7/24 17:17:23
          And where has martial law happened? (nm) - Sal KC - 7/24 15:34:50
               Germans could have easily said that during Hitler's rise to - JeffB MU - 7/24 17:40:20
          RE: They've been gearing up for martial law for awhile now. (nm) - Panthera MU - 7/24 13:55:38




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