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On the eve of the annual Braggin Right game, I reflect by FIJITiger

Is the transfer portal bad for college basketball (link) - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 15:20:13

following up on your prediction. when will this one happen? - festivus MU - 4/16/21 15:25:43

The portal isn’t the problem.The free agency aspect of it is - alwaysright MU - 4/16/21 15:25:18

Coleman - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 12:38:50

Prince - Genco98 MU - 4/16/21 13:59:11

Have we had a better basketball name than Boogie Coleman?(nm) - itznotwillis MU - 4/16/21 13:21:59

Bizarro Kramer(nm) - Diamond Dave MU

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High-pockets Templeton- lqf2b8(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 13:53:09

Herman Peeper (nm) - FIJItiger MU

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Darryl mutherfu*ckin' Butterfield(nm) - MizzouAstro MU

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Vodaitus Volkus(nm) - MizzouAstro MU

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"Big County”..............aka Dustin Reeve(nm) - MNTIGER MU - 4/16/21 13:42:11

nice (nm) - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 13:43:19

Too bad that coaches don’t have a sense of humor anymore. - MNTIGER MU - 4/16/21 13:44:54

Doc Nice Hardy (nm) - FIJItiger MU

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Cool Breeze Buntin (nm) - FIJItiger MU

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RE: Cool Breeze Buntin (nm) - Radical Tiger MU - 4/16/21 14:21:38

Greg The Hammer Church (nm) - FIJItiger MU

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Who was that little geek from Ohio - Genco98 MU - 4/16/21 15:25:54

The BandAid Man (nm) - FIJItiger MU

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Sandman Mike Sandbothe(nm) - FIJItiger MU

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large Hardge the barge (nm) - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 13:38:00

Flying Aardvark - JayHoaxH8r MU

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pulley(nm) - Fred G. Sanford USA - 4/16/21 13:31:46

Negus Webster-Chan (nm) - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 13:31:40

Negus puh-leeeeze(nm) - Diamond Dave MU

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Uche Glasseye(nm) - Fred G. Sanford USA - 4/16/21 13:31:06

Prince Bridges(nm) - Fred G. Sanford USA - 4/16/21 13:30:41

Moon McCrary(nm) - alstl MU - 4/16/21 13:27:39

Ryan Rosburg(nm) - MizzouAstro MU

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Mark Wampler(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 13:25:09

here's another - Missiurifarmboy MU - 4/16/21 13:17:12

watching that, I feel like we totally misused him.(nm) - MNTIGER MU - 4/16/21 13:43:56

Also he played in class 2A... SEC was too much for him(nm) - blackngold MU - 4/16/21 14:42:09

Sorta like Otto Porter? - JayHoaxH8r MU

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Are we winning more or less than expected in SEC? - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 10:10:30

RE: Are we winning more or less than expected in SEC? - HSCoach STL - 4/16/21 14:04:01

Seems pretty obvious doesn’t it? (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/16/21 12:33:49

"Ol Miss owns us, next dumb question.........nm - tigertix MU - 4/16/21 12:18:10

I look forward to all of your posts(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 12:27:01

much less. the frank haith years should be viewed as - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 12:12:00

Why should we claim to be above programs like - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 12:16:58

Which one of those has had better programs? - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 12:33:11

those programs have not been historically better. not close. - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 12:28:10

Spending is a big issue - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 13:55:10

agreed. it's a problem (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 14:24:28

So NCAA appearances count? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 12:29:42

MS St FF year team wasnt great - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 12:36:23

RE: MS St FF year team wasnt great - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 12:44:16

those were fluke years for them. i'd say the fact we haven't - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 12:47:08

A historic downturn in our program plus SEC football - jlbomega MU - 4/16/21 11:51:27

yeah, Bama doubles our basketball spending now - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 11:54:54

It's pathetic is what it is. nm. - MUTGR MU - 4/16/21 11:40:51

MU's program collapse since joining the SEC has - FIJItiger MU

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The assumption at the time was that we would struggle to - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 11:20:18

Our ascension toward the middle of the pack could be - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 10:49:34

I have to agree. I thought we'd be a consistent Top 4... - Lerxst MU

- 4/16/21 10:49:10

It makes me wonder if the SEC is also tougher - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 11:18:56

It definitely is in my opinion. Our 2012-13 team is - FIJItiger MU

- 4/16/21 13:47:02

The SEC has definitely upped their game in BB since we - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 11:23:10

Yep. CM was tasked with rebuilding. Really could have - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 10:52:44

I agree with everything you said with the exception of CM's - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 11:28:24

RE: I agree with everything you said with the exception of CM's - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 13:08:57

Stop already! The Porters were coming to Mizzou as long as - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 13:28:24

My only point is that if he cheated the way Will Wade - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 12:13:15

Agree with everything you posted there. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 12:43:14

The SEC expected us to be top 4 every year. - alwaysright MU - 4/16/21 10:27:03

According to what? - Genco98 MU - 4/16/21 10:58:27

They talked openly about how Missouri would improve the - alwaysright MU - 4/16/21 11:59:23

I don't recall that - Genco98 MU - 4/16/21 12:31:40

no pretty sure that was coming from coaches, ADs and - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 12:48:48

I think it was general knowledge that we were - Tptiger MU - 4/16/21 11:38:08

We finished top 4 in 2/15 years prior to joining the SEC - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 10:35:05

SEC vs Good Big 12 - alwaysright MU - 4/16/21 11:58:17

This is a myth - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 12:03:01

yikes. 9/15 tourney teams in prior 15 (nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 10:36:06

What does that have to do with expecting MU to be top 4? (nm) - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 10:45:14

it's directly related to the success in prior 15 yrs(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 11:03:50

they sound dumb(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 10:31:34

if we finish above 13th in SEC, we're above expectatations - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 10:23:30

link to budget? - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 10:25:01

RE: link to budget? - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 10:27:01

Outspend Georgia (!) and Mississippi St (nm) - DrViagra MU

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thanks(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 10:35:36

It is funny that Kim’s best finish was 2-16 record. - DrViagra MU

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Drinkwitz’s energy may give bball the margin needed to be - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 12:10:50

I thought he got to 3 one year. (nm) - mizzou john MU

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He was just a disaster. (nm) - Lerxst MU

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Lots of great players in the portal - lhs MU - 4/16/21 09:47:40

We look ok from an outside looking in, but need a - MU-TULSA MU - 4/16/21 10:51:43

We got a 40+ percent 3 point shooter - Eggs MU - 4/16/21 10:09:04

40+ percent 3 point shooter against weak competition - tigertix MU - 4/16/21 12:19:47

Yep Even better against P5 - NWMOTiger MU - 4/16/21 12:55:10

We need a high APG/ball handler and a post - jlbomega MU - 4/16/21 11:59:24

yeah, this board would love it if we hadn't signed anyone - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 10:04:07

we still have 2 spots(nm) - MizzouAstro MU

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Nope - NWMOTiger MU - 4/16/21 09:51:38

Martin on incoming class - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 09:41:01

Here’s the competion McKinney will play against at NMSU - MNTIGER MU - 4/16/21 11:40:39

I’m sure McKinney would like to change some things - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 12:20:08

RE: I’m sure McKinney would like to change some things - MNTIGER MU - 4/16/21 12:30:41

Or maybe if he went to class - NWMOTiger MU - 4/16/21 12:58:50

Have you seen Jackson’s stats at Seton Hall ? Especially - MNTIGER MU - 4/16/21 09:54:47

He’s playing behind a unanimous All Big East player there - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 09:57:34

14 minutes in 3 games?? Less than Wilmore, Okongo, and - MNTIGER MU - 4/16/21 11:29:21

if he could've contributed they would've found minutes - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 09:58:48

Thats fair. If we don’t see anything out of Tray in 21-22 - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 12:04:15

nah man 14-13 Seton Hall was stacked w/ pros - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 10:10:52

he didn't develop him at all in the year he was here(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 10:12:21

I know. It's Cuonzo's fault Tray didn't play at Seton Hall - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 10:13:57

LOL (nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 10:44:32

haha(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 10:16:12

That may be true, but those guys haven't exactly - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:48:07

RE: That may be true, but those guys haven't exactly - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 09:58:46

I agree with that. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 10:03:56

He has almost no idea why he plays the players he does - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 09:43:47

Durogordon - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 09:05:08

Kind of odd how he swings his arms so far behind him - FIJItiger MU

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Does it count as a turnover if he swings his arms after a - eatatjoes MU - 4/16/21 09:39:27

only 20% of a turnover (nm) - zoomer 99 - 4/16/21 09:42:04

LOL(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 09:40:52

RE: Kind of odd how he swings his arms so far behind him - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 09:35:14

Good point - K - Vegas - 4/16/21 09:17:24

Agreed. Seems like he's working hard already, getting - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:33:10

very nice(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 09:06:18

A positive hypothetical spin for the future - FIJItiger MU

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you sounded relatively normal the first two paragraphs - Jeff80 MU - 4/16/21 11:59:41

RE: A positive hypothetical spin for the future - SEMO_Hillbilly UMKC - 4/16/21 10:04:02

RE: A positive hypothetical spin for the future - SEMO_Hillbilly UMKC - 4/16/21 10:04:14

I don't think this is a positive spin. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:11:29

Well that is the one that give me the most possible hope - FIJItiger MU

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LOL(nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:31:34

Who are we beating in recruiting battles? - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 08:53:36

Kaleb, Kobe, Durugordon, Coleman and Keita - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 09:22:43

Gorden had offers from Xavier, KSU, Ole Miss, Nebraska - MizzouAstro MU

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Coleman's offers out of HS: - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:54:21

He had lots of offers out of Ball State. (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 09:59:21

who? (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:59:50

Duke, UNC, Kentucky, UCLA, Bulls, Nets, Lakers(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 10:11:28

And Parker Braun had an Arizona offer(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/16/21 09:50:06

wonder if that offer still stands. he's transferring, right? - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:57:03

To Santa Clara. I doubt they were competing with - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:58:33

kaleb brown's offers: - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:36:00

I don’t think he had offers from your list after Va Tech - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 09:40:56

my bad - you're right - i'll edit (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:45:10

It’s nice to at least not lose to Ole Miss for once (nm) - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 09:48:27

lol. i'll agree with that (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:54:45

That's a pretty decent list. (nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:37:21

really? for who? - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:44:06

Without Florida or Georgetown or WVU, it isn't as good. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:57:29

sean durugordon's offers: - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:37:15

Didn't he have a unique recruiting story? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:38:57

yaya keita's offers: - phrejd KC - 4/16/21 09:38:22

They are just names until we see them on the court - alstl MU - 4/16/21 09:22:28

K-State, Ball State & Wisconsin-Green Bay. BlueBloods(nm) - WrightWing MU - 4/16/21 09:18:46

Illinois is the only program we have beaten consistently - the808bass MU - 4/16/21 09:13:47

Recruiting is about momentum, we have lost it - FIJItiger MU

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What encapsulates my view of the Martin era: - slamduncan KC - 4/16/21 06:33:33

To be fair, we have to consider where we were when - MNTIGER MU - 4/16/21 09:40:43

Losing MPJ hurt, but don't forget that the recruiting class - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 09:58:09

It's still baffling to me how the MPJ injury went down.(nm) - sprintcar STL - 4/16/21 09:47:03

Chang era > Martin era.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 4/16/21 09:39:35

Missouri hasn't won the regular season conference title - alstl MU - 4/16/21 08:56:44

until the people in power care about w's & l's, they have - TigerAlum91 MU - 4/16/21 08:45:37

RE: until the people in power care about w's & l's, they have - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 09:00:03

For 3 yrs from 2014-17 we were the worst program - FIJItiger MU

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We made the tourney. We are relevant (nm) - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 07:58:19

I’ll let you guys argue relevant but this is an indisputable - alwaysright MU - 4/16/21 08:44:44

i never said otherwise although thinking someone is a pussy - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 08:53:49

Be in the middle. - alwaysright MU - 4/16/21 08:56:13

for CM i think that's true. he hasn't been great and hasn't - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 09:00:22

Half of the P5 teams make the tourney every year. Tourney - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 08:31:28

i would say being average is relevant. would obviously like - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 08:34:42

Really? Can you name the last three teams to finish 7th in - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 08:40:21

Lol(nm) - redngray MU - 4/16/21 08:23:06

And we did it the right way(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/16/21 08:01:24

We are somewhat relevant to our own fanbase - FIJItiger MU

- 4/16/21 08:00:26

Not exactly true. Our "relevancy" dipped at the end of the - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 08:21:13

RE: Not exactly true. Our "relevancy" dipped at the end of the - SEMO_Hillbilly UMKC - 4/16/21 10:28:25

Definitely, we were nationally relevant for various points - FIJItiger MU

- 4/16/21 08:33:07

RE: Definitely, we were nationally relevant for various points - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 08:36:26

Almost every season there is a team that cracks the top ten - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 08:35:16

At the end of noncon play we were definitely nationally - FIJItiger MU

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Yes it did. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 08:37:51

Relevance is not that transitory in my opinion. Every year - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 08:46:24

RE: Relevance is not that transitory in my opinion. Every year - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 10:19:01

VCU did for a couple of years, they lost their coach and - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 11:41:03

Yeah, so we have different definitions of it. That's fine. (nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 08:48:19

Mid-stride to an era - raskolnikov MU - 4/16/21 07:16:27

Not a fan but Haith averaged 25 wins in his tenure and won a - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 08:33:16

It's crazy to think... - BayStateTiger MU - 4/16/21 08:45:44

The more Haith got his own players the less he won (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 08:54:22

How is that different from CM? He won some in year one with - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 09:53:20

A mediocre program under a mediocre coach. If this board is - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 07:09:49

i haven't seen anyone say he is great and certainly the - TigerA MU - 4/16/21 08:29:14

^^This^^ - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 08:55:17

It is also appropriate for fans to want a successful program - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 10:00:52

See, you and I just don't see eye to eye on much. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 10:09:59

Weak P5 conference, I am not comparing us to the MAC or - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 11:48:19

I don't know what gives you that impression, but I know - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 11:54:41

Since 2000, a bit before we joined the SEC but close enough. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 12:11:24

We are 10 games under .500 in SEC play under Martin - FIJItiger MU

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In our best years under Martin, we are a little above - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 08:06:36

My personal assessment of the odds of each of your scenarios - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 08:28:31

Got it. I know you are more pessimistic than I am about - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 08:47:42

Pointing out that our coach has not accomplished anything in - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 08:53:45

RE: Pointing out that our coach has not accomplished anything in - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 10:35:20

So others can express their opinions time after time but it - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 11:50:56

That's not true. They post on a number of topics. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 11:57:02

You are a little myopic in your assessment. I have posted - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 12:17:37

RE: Pointing out that our coach has not accomplished anything in - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:05:38

None of those were bashing our coach. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 09:34:29

No. I think it's fine to criticize the program. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:42:57

That isn't true at all. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 08:58:38

He has averaged 8th place finishes in the SEC. Has never - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 09:45:49

This I agree with... - BayStateTiger MU - 4/16/21 10:09:42

Yep. Salaries are completely inflated. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 10:11:19

So the only "accomplishments" a coach can have is to - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 10:01:56

You just listed a bunch of participation trophies and tried - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 12:01:40

I think they probably finish between 1 & 2 next season (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 08:13:31

I agree with that completely - FIJItiger MU

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This(nm) - WrightWing MU - 4/16/21 07:49:23

Sometimes it's not the message... - BayStateTiger MU - 4/16/21 07:16:53

You are going to hurt yourself straddling that fence(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/16/21 07:59:01

HAHAHA... - BayStateTiger MU - 4/16/21 08:04:50

Mizzou hasn’t been a yearly Tournament team in 30 years - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 07:40:08

No offense, but you have become one of the most negative - FIJItiger MU

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RE: No offense, but you have become one of the most negative - TONYTIGR MU - 4/16/21 08:19:53

None taken (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/16/21 08:28:54

Probably a Sterk plant. (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/16/21 08:01:45

There’s an expectation that doesn’t match the history - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 08:01:39

Its odd how only people who don't recall or weren't - FIJItiger MU

- 4/16/21 08:05:50

Its going to take a better coach too(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/16/21 08:02:29

That’s possible - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 08:10:42

The difference with Drew is he has been able to - DollarSigns MU - 4/16/21 08:24:29

His best team wasn’t with elite recruits - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 08:42:56

And you also see coaches who never get very good, or - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/16/21 08:16:36

Sure that’s a possibility as well - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 08:20:06

I think that's the point that makes me mildly hopeful. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 12:00:34

It will basically happen overnight at Arkansas. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/16/21 07:50:07

Anderson won 60% of his games at Arkansas - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 07:56:20

Mizzou has a lot better history in a lot of people's minds - sprintcar STL - 4/16/21 07:47:19

the excuses are beginning to run out...the rest of your post - tigertix MU - 4/16/21 07:29:07

Another problem... - BayStateTiger MU - 4/16/21 08:03:40

Your take is the right one. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 08:12:01

Yep. I'm with you guys too. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/16/21 09:34:34

AR to Muss - here's $20 million please stick around for 5 yr - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/15/21 21:38:14

So you going to shout, Woooooooooo, Pig! Sooie - MU-TULSA MU - 4/16/21 05:44:22

I can not tell a lie... Wait thats a lie - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/16/21 06:36:27

Me too. My daughter went to school there. Great town, - Lerxst MU

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I had a vendor that called on me when I worked, huge Hog fan - MU-TULSA MU - 4/16/21 08:17:46

I assume you live in NW Arkansas - DevilsAdvocate KC - 4/16/21 04:51:30

Sterk gave Cuonzo $21 million (nm) - zounami MU - 4/15/21 22:13:28

Counzo whiffed on Bishop. Another miss(nm) - ZouMiz STL - 4/15/21 20:50:40

We never recruited him he doesn't want to play the 5 - tjjefferson MU - 4/16/21 15:12:11

The real solution? Sterk does his job right.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 4/16/21 08:04:01

RE: Counzo whiffed on Bishop. Another miss(nm) - slamduncan KC - 4/16/21 06:30:32

Arkansas wasn't either, but then they hired a good recruiter - zounami MU - 4/16/21 07:36:15

You could say the same about our FB program. What we need - zounami MU - 4/16/21 07:38:13

Why not a bb version of Pinkel? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 07:41:14

of course he did... recruiting players like that requires - zounami MU - 4/15/21 22:12:03

He whiffed twice frankly... - jlbomega MU - 4/15/21 21:13:19

RE: He whiffed twice frankly... - Third_Eye STL - 4/16/21 08:00:47

It’s an interesting point about evaluating local talent. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 22:19:19

RE: He whiffed twice frankly... - HSCoach STL - 4/15/21 22:10:38

Mizzou isn’t winning recruiting comps against these schools - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 20:51:38

So we should not offer any kid who has a legit offer - the808bass MU - 4/15/21 23:13:21

No continue to recruit them - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 23:21:48

He should be able to get into the mix at the very least - jlbomega MU - 4/15/21 21:14:27

I posted here that he was considering Kansas. Was told - Beez90 MU - 4/15/21 21:00:05

I was saying the same thing. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 21:15:02

GOSh DANG IT! CUONZO DIDNT GET THE GUY FROM CREIGHTON - MizzouGunner MU - 4/15/21 21:04:14

RE: GOSh DANG IT! CUONZO DIDNT GET THE GUY FROM CREIGHTON - TONYTIGR MU - 4/16/21 08:27:09

Disagree he fits what Mizzou needs - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 08:29:35

RE: Disagree he fits what Mizzou needs - TONYTIGR MU - 4/16/21 09:14:20

Cuonzo on transfers - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 15:43:36

It's just wierd - XRob MU

- 4/15/21 20:16:01

It's his chance to save his job - ERB KC - 4/16/21 09:07:29

RE: It's just wierd - Mizzhope MU - 4/15/21 22:32:58

Depends who they are competing against - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 22:40:34

RE: It's just wierd - HSCoach STL - 4/15/21 22:12:03

JG on transfers: meh - JG MU

- 4/15/21 18:38:41

Do you remember Ricky Frazier (nm) - Uncle John MU - 4/15/21 19:39:21

Each of last 2 years he felt his team was underrated - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 16:46:33

He was right this season. They were picked way below where - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 18:00:49

They were picked 10th & played as 9th place in SEC - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 21:10:19

We had enough talent to beat Alabama. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/15/21 19:17:39

Lol they absolutely didn’t have the talent (nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 18:11:16

This is a team who should have finished 12-6 in league - Eggs MU - 4/15/21 18:55:14

Certainly had a shot at it. We needed to be able to get - MNTIGER MU - 4/15/21 20:47:25

It wasn’t deep enough - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 20:40:09

We had the talent to win 4 more sec games. That’s 3rd and - alwaysright MU - 4/15/21 18:31:33

We had 2 all-SEC players and Pinson, who has the - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/15/21 18:23:05

50/50 - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 17:09:41

I could give less than a damn about what CM says at this - longtimereader MU - 4/15/21 17:03:49

Let me know when he’s right about something. - alwaysright MU - 4/15/21 17:12:22

Apparently Tilmon and Dru are signing with agent(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/15/21 18:10:45

many people feel that way about you as well - Jeff80 MU - 4/15/21 17:17:06

and the narrative is in the last line - Yellow Weasel MU - 4/15/21 15:53:14

RE: and the narrative is in the last line - HSCoach STL - 4/15/21 16:33:28

That’s on him if they aren’t competitive - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 16:01:27

without a doubt(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 16:03:54

Counzo confirms Tilmon and Dru to sign with agents - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 15:28:10

of course... he encouraged them to (nm) - zounami MU - 4/15/21 22:10:51

They can all have good long careers. I wish them the best. - Delicious MU - 4/15/21 15:34:58

will be interesting to see how their careers play out. - phrejd KC - 4/15/21 15:57:50

All look to be Euro-bound (nm) - raskolnikov MU - 4/16/21 07:20:14

oh, none of them will be in the NBA. But they can all have - Delicious MU - 4/15/21 18:06:17

i just don't see dru as a pro. - phrejd KC - 4/15/21 18:24:03

The thing Dru has is drive, which enhances his skillset - Ohtiger MU - 4/15/21 18:58:37

Geist is doing awesome in Germany - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 18:25:53

if i want an update on what geist is doing i know who to ask - phrejd KC - 4/15/21 18:27:18

My guess - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 16:02:56

The Cambodian league is up and coming(nm) - MizzouAstro MU

- 4/15/21 16:23:51

Geist is about to get called up to the top Eruoleague. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 16:00:34

I agree. Dru is fundamentally sound and plays hard. - scif MU - 4/15/21 20:45:59

I think Mitch will do well as a pro. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 20:53:30

I hope so. And guys fill out at different ages. - scif MU - 4/15/21 22:27:23

USC gets probation - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 4/15/21 14:13:56

I'd be curious to see what the recruiting restrictions are - alstl MU - 4/15/21 21:01:18

Well they can't cite KU for cooperation. Have to find anothe - pinkman MU - 4/15/21 16:51:30

Hopefully that second paragraph is a signal that ku is going - MNTIGER MU - 4/15/21 20:56:55

How many total years of postseason ban will this scandal - Eggs MU - 4/15/21 16:23:12

It's always those pesky assistant coaches. (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/15/21 15:29:24

Yep, the head coaches are aghast at the allegations (nm) - Ohtiger MU - 4/15/21 19:12:28

And we didn't? Give me a freaking break. The NCAA - Erwin Fletcher STL - 4/15/21 14:29:04

USC gets leniency for cooperating. Mizzou gets its - Ohtiger MU - 4/15/21 19:11:42

good lord the ncaa is so freaking arbitrary (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/15/21 14:16:01

RE: good lord the ncaa is so freaking arbitrary (nm) - HSCoach STL - 4/15/21 14:41:16

you just can't help yourself, race troll (nm) - zounami MU - 4/15/21 22:09:37

U R so dumb (nm) - Ohtiger MU - 4/15/21 19:13:21

His 3rd down drops were much more damaging(nm) - Eggs MU - 4/15/21 15:21:07

He was just one piece of that puzzle(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/15/21 15:13:24

i'm not interested in how retarded you are (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/15/21 14:48:38

oh man - Cosmo MU

- 4/15/21 15:04:33

HAHAHA(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 14:51:02

It's interesting that LSU hasn't actually announced Pinson. - Delicious MU - 4/15/21 13:12:55

Can't comment on specific recruits until they sign - HissingPrigs77 MU - 4/15/21 13:19:45

They have had a few transfers this week - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:13:44

more posts about terrance watson today than during - phrejd KC - 4/15/21 13:05:46

I can commit to doing my part (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 13:56:32

He would have been 1 of 4 returning players in his 4th year - Ace MU - 4/15/21 13:08:37

my cat's breath smells like cat food(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 13:09:06

lol(nm) - MizzouAstro MU

- 4/15/21 14:15:42

lmao (nm) - Cosmo MU

- 4/15/21 13:28:47

lol (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/15/21 13:25:29

Ralph Wiggum(nm) - ERB KC - 4/15/21 13:14:03

LOL!!! Perfect answer to that post. (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/15/21 13:12:38

DHighlander is creating a lot of content(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 13:06:52

He's not the one that causes these daily wars on here though - Missiurifarmboy MU - 4/15/21 13:26:25

dude is wound tight - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/15/21 13:09:22

You guys are hilarious. I have stated multiple times that - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 16:38:26

They will replace the scoring. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 16:48:16

To replace that scoring guys will have to be more - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 17:29:11

Every team scores around 70-75 per game. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 17:35:51

We don't have any bigs and no one is beating down our door - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 18:34:17

Keita is already here. I have given some stats on similarly - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 21:13:20

English and Demon? How about CMs recent freshmen? - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 22:07:58

You left Kobe out - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 22:29:51

I left Kobe out because he was already on your list. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/16/21 06:57:57

He’s not pulling 5 guys from the rec - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/16/21 07:13:51

That dude is a poor representation of Mizzou fans - MizzouGunner MU - 4/15/21 14:36:31

Watson to me encapsulates the Cuonzo era at MU - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 08:49:05

If he doesn't hate CM its a miracle....nm - tigertix MU - 4/15/21 18:29:50

He reminds me a little of KJ Walton. A little overmatched at - sprintcar STL - 4/15/21 14:29:25

One huge difference - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 14:31:30

Walton took more threes both years at Mizzou than he has the - sprintcar STL - 4/15/21 14:48:40

I think Walton is a better comp for Davis. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 14:54:08

If Watson was so talented he would have landed - MizzouGunner MU - 4/15/21 12:53:00

brings up the point of why he was here in the first place - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 12:55:13

He was here because he was a 4 star recruit with a national - KC rules MU - 4/15/21 14:13:15

That is what was said about guys like - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 12:55:00

I don’t think anyone was saying that about those 3(nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:20:55

Wes doesn’t fit your argument - Ace MU - 4/15/21 13:17:48

What kind of game do you think Watson has? - Ace MU - 4/15/21 12:12:29

IMO, when he played initially - Mormad MU - 4/15/21 12:20:57

While insightful, it doesn’t tell me what kind of game you - Ace MU - 4/15/21 13:03:10

So what you're saying is that HCCM is a terrible coach - Cosmo MU

- 4/15/21 12:30:31

I don't think he is a Cuonzo type of player - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 12:53:21

This is the best evaluation on him i have seen here (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 12:27:20

Cuonzo can't coach offense or coach players up on offense n - tjjefferson MU - 4/15/21 10:58:46

It was the defense that was the reason Mizzou didn’t - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:00:50

I don't see that, at least not as a coaching issue. If - GA Tiger MU - 4/15/21 11:25:48

He didn't coach a defense to his talent level. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:30:45

I thought the scheme was wrong on defense - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:34:45

Yup that's Anton & Kaleb right there. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:35:56

It’s Durugodon, Brazile, Keita - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:38:05

He will be looking for a soft spot after this year. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:41:03

If he’s wrong on his recruiting he will (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:44:36

It was the defense that didn't score for a bunch of - SabertoothTiger MU - 4/15/21 11:18:09

yeah I guess the defense was who jacked all those 3's - tjjefferson MU - 4/15/21 11:03:19

It was the defense not getting stops and rebounds - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:07:34

A lot of that decline happened because Pinson was - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:09:50

There were many guys beat off the dribble. See TCU,Miss,etc - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:11:59

That's true. The reason X is blamed is that - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:25:40

Cuonzo has a bunch of excuses, but will say he's not making - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:28:03

Honest question: what excuses has he made? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:36:07

Previously Injuries. He had his friends in media(Matter,Hoch - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:40:19

Oh, so it's a conspiracy. I see.(nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:41:41

The dude obviously has some kind of agenda against CM - Cosmo MU

- 4/15/21 11:44:23

Your next insightful post will be your first insightful post - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 13:13:13

ok thanks (nm) - Cosmo MU

- 4/15/21 13:29:38

I know, right? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:50:50

Nope. Cuonzo doesn't have guys in the media. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:43:12

That seems to have been fixed. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:13:47

lol.Right Cuonzo's building a Big10 team in SEC. Won't work - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:14:32

he needs to stop devaluing players(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 11:23:46

His development erodes them & coaching devalues. Tilmon - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:30:04

impossible to know that but okay(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 11:31:27

Compare Tilmon's rate of development w/ Cockburn. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:34:50

Compare it with Malik Williams, - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:49:51

Re-check your facts on Williams class - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 13:14:25

He’s in the same class as Tilmon - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:18:07

See Highlander's list of post rated near Tilmon in his class - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 13:20:47

He’s ranked 27 here in that class - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:22:33

lol, yes JT isn't an all-american. he was still very good - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 11:45:53

He averaged 12ppg and 7rpg his senior year. For his career - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:34:59

What a dumb comp to use - Cosmo MU

- 4/15/21 12:36:19

Why is it dumb both had a career average of 9.7 ppg and JT - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:43:31

Ok so you want to compare JT to another player - Cosmo MU

- 4/15/21 12:46:50

You think JT and KP played different positions? Here is the - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:50:48

Yeah, they did. Did you watch Puryear play? - Cosmo MU

- 4/15/21 12:55:30

What about all the other bigs that developed less? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:36:35

You mean like Garza,Wadus,Lester Earl, etc. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:42:22

I posted about Tilmon’s recruiting class - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:46:54

As I suspected you are completely full of shlt! I just did - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:26:10

Here is the 247 ranking for that class - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 12:31:05

You claimed you were comparing him to other top prospects. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:46:57

His go-to-move is to change the narrative. You exposed him. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 13:18:08

You didn’t search to find the post with the breakdown - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 12:48:12

Even if true, which I doubt. Does everybody else did worse - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:01:00

lol what? (nm) - Cosmo MU

- 4/15/21 12:02:33

He claims that CM develops talent and as proof he says that - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:28:38

No, he claimed in that post that the other comparable - Cosmo MU

- 4/15/21 12:34:06

The 'others' that he was referring to were the top rated 5s - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:37:08

That tells me you didn’t read the post breaking down - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 12:44:39

I'm pretty sure he doesn't read posts - Cosmo MU

- 4/15/21 12:49:01

No, it's in the subject line - Cosmo MU

- 4/15/21 12:44:15

So by eliminating all of those that actually developed CM - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 12:55:26

5 stars that left after 1 season were developed? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 12:58:52

Enough to be in the NBA. Try this comparison then - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 13:30:31

just b/c there are better players doesn't mean JT didn't - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 13:34:55

Look at his numbers over his four seasons and tell me he - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 13:47:16

1) you can watch the games and see he improved. just - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 14:00:11

I just posted below that he was 30th in scoring and 10th in - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 14:05:14

clearly the numbers were worthly b/c he got it and it isn't - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 14:10:45

DH is comparing JT to Puryear because the Mizzou page - Cosmo MU

- 4/15/21 14:28:53

They were both bigs. Different styles but both played - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 17:01:35

KP played on the wing and rarely posted up - Cosmo MU

- 4/16/21 10:07:52

haha, no ****(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 14:34:42

Dig into his stats lots of areas of improvement - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:50:55

Care to show those stats you think he deserved? - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 14:02:30

According Cuonzo yesterday he said he was top 4 - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 14:08:39

I included them and the others in that class - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:33:53

You claimed that Tilmon did well in comparison once you - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 13:40:13

He did do well. I didn’t say he was the best in his class (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:42:13

He finished his career averaging less than 10 ppg and 5 rpg. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 13:50:01

It’s among the better stat lines for bigs in that class - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:52:10

There were 18 players in the SEC this season that had a - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 14:17:58

RE: There were 18 players in the SEC this season that had a - Third_Eye STL - 4/15/21 19:03:46

what exactly makes you think he had that talent?(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 13:41:32

His recruiting ranking and play his freshman year. JT had - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 13:56:37

he was all league this year. that makes him one of our - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 14:00:50

No, you're not reading or just don't care - Cosmo MU

- 4/15/21 12:57:41

that isn't true though(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/15/21 12:01:58

Big 10 team? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:16:38

The only guy I saw who would pump fake at the 3 pt line - alstl MU - 4/15/21 10:32:14

The mid-range game is pretty much gone from CBB. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 10:47:24

I should do a film breakdown here. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:52:58

A lot of our movement is ineffective and really just - alwaysright MU - 4/15/21 12:24:45

Mizzou has been near the top of P6 teams each of the last 2 - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:16:21

I have never been one to argue that we did not get enough - alwaysright MU - 4/15/21 15:54:08

Well it’s not really a motion offense. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 16:05:12

No you have made a bunch of claims about the offense - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 11:00:57

Here you go. I have posted it before. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:03:16

And as I responded when you posted it. That is a playbook, - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 11:54:28

It’s a playbook based on video. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 13:31:34

Here’s the shot charts for Mizzou’s last three games. - the808bass MU - 4/15/21 11:14:31

WOW! Am I reading this correctly? Only TWO made - MNTIGER MU - 4/15/21 11:42:04

Not crazy, CM's offense. Wu-T would have you believe that - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 11:55:30

It’s most offenses college and pro - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:58:19

Might be why Mizzou went and got a guy like Davis - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:49:53

And without development we can see him on video next season - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 11:56:19

That didn’t happen this season - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 12:48:59

You are either blind, stupid or CM's nephew.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 18:37:26

What does that have to do with the playbook - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:18:50

You’re arguing yourself into a corner. (nm) - the808bass MU - 4/15/21 11:24:29

I posted a link to the playbook. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:25:57

I thought we were arguing about mid range shots in the - the808bass MU - 4/15/21 11:46:53

Wu-T actually thinks pictures of the plays the team claims - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 11:58:03

Yeah, imagine using images and figures to teach others - Cosmo MU

- 4/15/21 12:08:57

I see you didn’t go to the link - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:59:06

That simply isn't true. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 10:46:27

Shot charts tell a different story. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 10:57:22

Yes, our opponents in those games shot more - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:04:53

That’s good offense. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:00:05

Dru Smith too. Dru was our offense for many spurts - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 10:41:58

He's a 3 and D guy at the P6 level, i don't know what - playhard KC - 4/15/21 10:26:49

If he could improve his ball handling, he could use his - Eggs MU - 4/15/21 10:29:25

He might be able to bully ball some guys at a lower level - playhard KC - 4/15/21 10:35:29

Probably why he's heading to Elon now - Eggs MU - 4/15/21 10:42:39

It's over it's past, time to move on, CM appears to have - MU-TULSA MU - 4/15/21 09:40:10

There will be a new poor 3 pt shooter who will - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 10:38:44

Will he be 6.10, shrink when he's in the post but gets mins? - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 10:41:03

Do the Tigers still have two schollies open? - ERB KC - 4/15/21 09:58:22

Mitchell Smith: the sequel and we’ll “bank” a scholarship - the808bass MU - 4/15/21 10:26:20

He’s talked about banking true scholarship before - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:46:07

I’m not sure there’s a qualitative difference b/w banking a - the808bass MU - 4/15/21 11:01:40

Guess averaged 15 & 10 this season - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:04:34

He averaged zero pts and rebounds for Mizzou - the808bass MU - 4/15/21 11:16:56

I averaged 25 & 15 in the gym. What does that mean? - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:06:06

I bet you did. Guess is actually a proven D1 player now - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:10:01

You said that about Wilmore. Please miss me with the B.S. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:13:01

When? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:14:09

From a quant standpoint can't offer a mid-season transfer. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:03:30

Need a PF/C that can run the court and I am sure they - MU-TULSA MU - 4/15/21 10:00:21

Yes - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:00:19

Yes. CM said yesterday that he's going to fill at least one - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 09:59:54

Wow. This post encapsulates your view of - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 09:33:25

I disagree on athleticism - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 10:36:15

I think you're wrong. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 10:59:02

You nailed it(nm) - BlackSheep MU - 4/16/21 05:45:53

RE: Watson to me encapsulates the Cuonzo era at MU - TBrown MU - 4/15/21 09:27:19

RE: Watson to me encapsulates the Cuonzo era at MU - Third_Eye STL - 4/15/21 11:48:34

The problem with people on this board is that - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 09:44:42

RE: The problem with people on this board is that - Third_Eye STL - 4/15/21 11:51:18

I'm not talking player development in this post - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 10:27:59

I'm not just focusing on this year. His minutes were - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:41:16

There’s an in between ground - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 09:51:51

Right. And I'm in that middle ground. Most people - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 09:55:37

I’m hopeful that after the 2020 class - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:08:40

I like this class too.(nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:11:48

You liked last year's class and the ones before. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:33:34

Did I? Show me where I said that I liked last year's - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:43:32

I wouldn't say rarely. We haven't been since 2015 - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 10:30:23

That's true. And a lot of us thought that CM would - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:21:30

He's selling defense in an era of offense. Generation behind - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:23:19

How do you know what he's selling? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:28:45

Recruits say this all the time. Your nose is too far up his - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:32:50

RE: Recruits say this all the time. Your nose is too far up his - Third_Eye STL - 4/15/21 12:00:08

Only Wilmore,Chang & Buggs believed him last year. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 14:01:56

What are you talking about? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:34:32

I've lost enough brain cells responding to you. Later. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:37:52

Right. And you don't have many to spare. See ya.(nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 11:51:49

Even before 2015 Mizzou wasn’t a recruiting school - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:42:04

I don't understand what that means, what is a recruiting - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 10:44:57

Most of this roster is nationally recruited. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:50:26

MU's most successful class was 1979 - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 10:52:58

That was before I was alive. Players at their level - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:56:54

lol. fyi..life existed before you were alive. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 10:59:47

Ok hold on to that period from the 70’s and 80’s - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:01:50

MU was no good when they brought in that class, it was - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 11:05:29

They said that about Houston! - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:04:24

Houston actually fits with what I’m talking about - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:12:52

Sampson develops while Cuonzo erodes. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:13:59

Except almost all the players that have been here - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:16:07

What areas did Mitch improve? Shot selection? Inside game? - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:20:19

Defense, rebounding. If you wanted him to be a post - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:22:35

LOL.He's the same player he was as a soph for CM. He never - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:25:38

He’s not a post. If that how you want to use him - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:27:04

CM's biggest fans are the ones who think Mizzou's BB history - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15/21 10:38:17

They know, but selectively skip over the past. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 10:45:08

Elon says more about him than you could if you rambled on - Jeff80 MU - 4/15/21 09:05:33

Agree, I do not like the current way college bb is played - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 10:23:48

What does Elon say about him? (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/15/21 09:17:17

he couldn't consistently play at the sec level - Jeff80 MU - 4/15/21 10:17:39

nm - Cosmo MU

- 4/15/21 09:33:47

So thought provocative like your other post! - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:05:06

Never developed his skill set ... - Ernie Webb III - 4/15/21 09:02:23

Axle, Chang, Wilmore & Santos to me encapsulates Cuonzo era - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:01:52

We don't look very good attacking the rim either. (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/15/21 09:01:30

Was he not a good shooter in high school? I know that he - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/15/21 08:55:28

His high school coach is on record as saying he's a scorer - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:03:21

No (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 09:00:14

Shot about 30% from 3 in both high school and AAU - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 08:56:49

His athleticism was a limiting factor for him (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 08:50:19

Yet its a strength defensively, and he is more athletic than - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 08:51:25

But Pickett and Dru found other ways to score. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 09:35:45

Dru & Kass benefitted from teams not scheming against - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:41:52

Really? So let me get this straight... - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 09:46:51

BB 101. Teams scheme against others teams & priorotize - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 10:51:40

Mid season teams quit staying attached to Mark - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:55:26

Not true, but that's your observation. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:00:39

Watson is less skilled than Pickett and Dru Smith - BlackSheep MU - 4/15/21 09:00:03

As I said below, I agree with that. So it is other areas - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 09:01:11

See below(nm) - BlackSheep MU - 4/15/21 09:03:39

Dru was both a better shooter and ball handler. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 08:53:05

Agree. So it was other areas and not lack of athleticism - FIJItiger MU

- 4/15/21 08:59:32

For Watson to be a good SEC player he had be a good - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 09:03:14

Elon is in North Carolina, and Iona is in New Rochelle NY. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:04:59

My bad. The point is still true. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 09:06:14

You mean that he's Boogie & Davis? - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:14:58

or...Dru Smith and Kassius Robertson? (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/15/21 09:27:52

No. They don’t play bulleyball - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 09:20:28

bulleyball as in actually driving, cutting, and picking as - Missiurifarmboy MU - 4/15/21 09:55:13

That isn't true at all. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 09:58:01

There was very little motion in this offense. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 10:53:32

It wasn’t a motion offense (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:58:07

Mizzou is in a select few where guys stayed stationary. Few - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:01:59

It wasn’t a stationary offense either. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:24:28

Giving old concepts a new name doesn't make you smart. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 14:00:55

It's a lot harder when you don't actually understand any of - Missiurifarmboy MU - 4/15/21 13:11:44

lol..I am not impressed with the 3 tranfers. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:23:07

We will see next year how they translate - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 09:25:27

Gordon becomes a shooter (lol). Davis mechanics are slow & - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 10:58:32

Ok Bookmark it. If Mizzou is bad then you will be right. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 11:32:22

What role other is there when a player lack dribbling and - BlackSheep MU - 4/15/21 09:03:11

He was never put in position to shoot a mid-range shot. Put - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:16:33

That may be true but the question is why? - BlackSheep MU - 4/15/21 10:24:34

That wasn't true until this year. His poor play led to - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 09:37:34

Every year. Did you just start watching this year? - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:10:46

RE: He was never put in position to shoot a mid-range shot. Put - TBrown MU - 4/15/21 09:29:53

Agreed - BlackSheep MU - 4/15/21 10:40:35

Watson - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 19:13:14

Good luck to him - MizzouAstro MU

- 4/15/21 07:38:37

That's a good fit. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 07:02:38

Always loved his attitude. I really hope it works out for - zounami MU - 4/15/21 01:51:20

Cuonzo lied to kid, devalued him & then ran kid off. Scum! - Sigma MU - 4/14/21 21:34:28

a shooter that can't hit a shot has little value - Jeff80 MU - 4/15/21 08:20:42

dumb(nm) - MizzouAstro MU

- 4/15/21 07:37:02

Everyone got a redshirt (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 21:38:36

Not everyone was lied to & devalued. Cuonzo will be in CAA - Sigma MU - 4/14/21 21:41:40

I don't get guys like you - Mormad MU - 4/14/21 23:07:09

Search & you will see I wrote Watson had potential & - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 08:42:37

so all of the guys that can't play are being used incorrectl - Jeff80 MU - 4/15/21 09:10:24

Staff upsells them. Wilmore = Bradford. Chang 3 pt threat! - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:36:56

Well, if they can play and still retain eligibility what - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/15/21 08:57:41

Red-shirts don't get the run the others get and are not - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:14:10

RE: Red-shirts don't get the run the others get and are not - TBrown MU - 4/15/21 10:08:38

CM's lack of system exposed his flaws, & didn't highlight - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 10:55:34

Yeah, I understand that during a "normal" year, but this - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/15/21 09:17:35

Cuonzo seemed to put him in on a "hunch" and jerk him - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:21:29

The rotations were easy to figure out this season - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 09:24:24

He played same guys but rotating was as baffling as before. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 10:56:13

Everyone knew when they were getting minutes - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 15:48:57

Everyone redshirted - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 08:45:28

It affected his preparation, & staff's interaction w/ him as - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 08:57:29

Then they aren't a very good coaching staff...red shirting.. - BandG MU - 4/15/21 09:15:43

As a staff their "wing development" is not very good. SEC is - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 09:19:23

It’s been a recruiting failure. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 09:23:06

Simple...he wants attention (nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 4/15/21 04:36:59

Devalued, like a stock?Where can I buy some T Watson shares? - festivus MU - 4/14/21 22:35:03

Buy DaJuan Gordon and they may be de-listed. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 08:43:25

RE: Buy DaJuan Gordon and they may be de-listed soon. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 08:44:37

How was he lied to? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 21:42:30

Cuonzo high character act is a facade.His coaching has - Sigma MU - 4/14/21 21:48:12

RE: Cuonzo high character act is a facade.His coaching has - TBrown MU - 4/15/21 10:10:02

Game recognizes Game. Folks in Tenn were right about him. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 11:21:58

you didn't answer his question(nm) - MizzouAstro MU

- 4/15/21 07:37:41

That answer covers his question. - Sigma MU - 4/15/21 08:43:55

Gee it doesn't sound like you have an agenda at all - Cosmo MU

- 4/14/21 22:01:47

"You can't handle the truth". 2 more yrs of excuses - Sigma MU - 4/14/21 22:09:27

Don’t be a dip****(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 4/15/21 04:37:38

impossible(nm) - MizzouAstro MU

- 4/15/21 07:37:53

That didn’t answer the question (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 21:53:49

Or, he didn't and you're just tossing turd grenades(nm) - Mormad MU - 4/14/21 21:35:39

2nd graders use "turds". It's past your bedtime! - Sigma MU - 4/14/21 21:36:53

Wish he’d have had a few more minutes at MU to prove himself - TigerFan92 STL - 4/14/21 21:16:22

He played almost 1500 minutes. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 21:25:45

7 minutes a game as a jr. should have let him go last year - TigerFan92 STL - 4/14/21 21:31:12

Players compete for minutes - BlackSheep MU - 4/15/21 06:34:15

Luckily for him, last year is a do-over - Mormad MU - 4/14/21 21:34:54

Former Tiger coach Frank Haith is an alum of Elon - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 21:10:06

Jack McKeon, former Royals manager is an alum of Elon also - MNTIGER MU - 4/15/21 10:00:12

Hope he burns it up, Good Luck Torrence you will always - MU-TULSA MU - 4/14/21 20:45:30

RE: Hope he burns it up, Good Luck Torrence you will always - Third_Eye STL - 4/14/21 20:50:25

I wish him the best(nm) - oldtgr MU - 4/14/21 20:34:24

Good luck young man(nm) - BlackSheep MU - 4/14/21 20:19:02

Congrats to him.....that's a good landing spot - Mormad MU - 4/14/21 19:51:21

RE: Watson - HSCoach STL - 4/14/21 19:41:14

Good kid, congrats...will probably see him on ESPN..nm - tigertix MU - 4/14/21 19:42:27

Brookshire - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 18:58:53

Rarely saw him shoot - Blitzkrieg OU - 4/15/21 09:44:27

He’s top 10 in Missouri high school history in 3’s - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 10:04:07

Can't wait to see him play at Mizzou - MUKdC MU - 4/14/21 19:07:09

Another Watson/Pickett/Smith/etc......nm - tigertix MU - 4/14/21 19:43:14

RE: Another Watson/Pickett/Smith/etc......nm - HSCoach STL - 4/14/21 20:12:24

Much? - Cosmo MU

- 4/14/21 22:02:42

What other comment could we expect from you?(nm) - oldtgr MU - 4/14/21 20:33:23

His game is very different than Watson and Pickett - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 19:49:35

RE: Another Watson/Pickett/Smith/etc......nm - TONYTIGR MU - 4/14/21 19:46:14

Arizona hire - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 17:44:10

Who would have thought 15 years ago that Arizona would - MizzouAstro MU

- 4/15/21 07:40:06

That is a good gamble on their part(nm) - Erwin Fletcher STL - 4/14/21 18:18:20

Transfer rule passed - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 15:18:27

Mussleman gets paid by Arky... - MUTGR MU - 4/14/21 14:43:46

he set the bar really high for CM this coming year - SuperTone MU

- 4/14/21 14:55:57

CM is not an excuse guy, he is looking to win - raskolnikov MU - 4/14/21 18:18:26

Agreed. He is resetting the roster, but I think CM plans on - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 07:00:48

all him, 10-20...nm - tigertix MU - 4/14/21 19:45:19

Nah. We'll be .500 or better. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 07:01:57

MU bball is not in the same neighborhood as Arkansas - zoomer 99 - 4/14/21 15:07:53

MU is a better program than Arkansas, that is one of the - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 15:27:56

Not by any meaningful metric - zoomer 99 - 4/14/21 15:32:58

They just reached their first Sweet 16 since the 90's... - zounami MU - 4/14/21 17:03:04

MA ran a gadget offense. By the time he took over Arky - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/14/21 17:26:49

I think he had a gadget defense - MUTGR MU - 4/14/21 18:22:13

Your statement was more accurate than mine. His fast - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/14/21 20:31:46

Freedom of movement had a bigger impact on him - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 17:50:47

Phil Jackson ran a gadget offense. - 90Tiger STL - 4/14/21 17:47:35

Meaningful metric - zoomer 99 - 4/14/21 17:08:32

I take it you are going back multiple decades.(nm) - SuperTone MU

- 4/14/21 15:55:37

Any decades. Go ahead, cherry pick MU's all-time peak - zoomer 99 - 4/14/21 15:59:46

Arkansas was ranked 15th the first week of the 2000-01 - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 16:14:08

Notice I didn't even need to pick MU's peak years - SuperTone MU

- 4/14/21 16:13:53

Ok. Lets start after their last national title appearance - SuperTone MU

- 4/14/21 16:04:18

Mizzou won 2 conference tournaments over that time - SuperTone MU

- 4/14/21 16:10:11

we also have the same number of conference titles - SuperTone MU

- 4/14/21 16:08:28

Nice dude, find some other small datasets to support it - zoomer 99 - 4/14/21 16:10:40

it is a 25 year long data set.(nm) - SuperTone MU

- 4/14/21 16:11:10

Ok. Arkansas wins more games than MU, at a higher rate - zoomer 99 - 4/14/21 16:13:30

over the last 25 years. Avg wins Ark=20.1, MU=19.1 - SuperTone MU

- 4/14/21 16:18:42

MU's record since 1999 is also better than Indiana - zoomer 99 - 4/14/21 16:33:06

I see you are moving goalposts. Here is your words again - SuperTone MU

- 4/15/21 10:42:19

lol I can't treat you seriously if this is your counter - zoomer 99 - 4/14/21 16:05:24

Here are you exact words - SuperTone MU

- 4/14/21 16:06:36

I pointed out the 2000-2010 period that you'd latch onto - zoomer 99 - 4/14/21 16:10:02

i'm looking at 1996 through 2021 which includes this years - SuperTone MU

- 4/14/21 16:10:53

Are the numbers wrong?(nm) - SuperTone MU

- 4/14/21 16:05:41

Arkansas' success is based on its coaches - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 15:39:59

Even Alabama football had Mike Shula - hogfan14 UA - 4/15/21 13:06:57

but you didn't take into account expectations - TigerA MU - 4/14/21 15:33:57

This is CM's 3rd go around building a roster - XRob MU

- 4/14/21 15:01:29

RE: This is CM's 3rd go around building a roster - HSCoach STL - 4/14/21 15:16:54

Yes - XRob MU

- 4/14/21 16:28:50

how long should he get to do that?(nm) - SuperTone MU

- 4/14/21 15:53:55

Mizzou is already back to where it was - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 17:15:06

MU avged 25.5 wins per season in the 6 years prior to KA - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 17:26:58

RE: MU avged 25.5 wins per season in the 6 years prior to KA - Georgia Tiger MU - 4/15/21 06:42:05

Mizzou was 69th in KenPom in Haith’s last season - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 17:36:49

Years & Years & Years - WrightWing MU - 4/14/21 16:06:47

RE: he set the bar really high for CM this coming year - HSCoach STL - 4/14/21 14:57:51

arky's turnover was from graduation.... - SuperTone MU

- 4/14/21 15:53:30

RE: Mussleman gets paid by Arky... - nitwittc3 MU - 4/14/21 14:52:10

Kim English completes his staff at George Mason - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 11:51:28

Does he get a pass for the disparaging remarks he made - alstl MU - 4/14/21 15:59:43

He does from me, because unfortunately he was accurate - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 16:03:54

Those aren't the remarks I'm talking about(nm) - alstl MU - 4/14/21 21:33:36

Felton's a nice get. - Lakers_Ball UK - 4/14/21 14:05:13

MIght bring Ernie Nestor to sit on the bench with him for - Erwin Fletcher STL - 4/14/21 14:00:29

RE: MIght bring Ernie Nestor to sit on the bench with him for - TBrown MU - 4/15/21 10:26:36

George Mason might have another Final Four run then (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 14:23:51

I guess Rick Ray was too expensive. (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/14/21 12:04:00

Wonder how long that demotion lasts - tjjefferson MU - 4/14/21 11:53:04

Associate head coach. Sounds like the previous head - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/14/21 12:05:58

RE: Associate head coach. Sounds like the previous head - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 12:13:41

Odd story. - Mizzou1990 MU - 4/15/21 10:14:49

****, missy elliott'd it - tjjefferson MU - 4/14/21 12:16:20

- 4/14/21 12:23:09

Great idea for a young coach. I wish our current coach had - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/14/21 13:10:50

I would like to see a Nestor type in a non assistant role. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 14:01:46

Lavin used to employ Gene Keady in that - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 14:28:12

From a budget standpoint Mizzou hasn’t really replaced - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 14:42:44

RE: From a budget standpoint Mizzou hasn’t really replaced - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 15:25:26

Quin even kept Rich Daly on temporarily as a consultant to - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 13:47:21

you think he thinks he brought in bad assistants?(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/14/21 13:17:14

Potential rule changes for next season - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 11:48:20

Don't like any of them....and the held ball rule doesn't - ShowMeKid MU - 4/15/21 22:15:54

RE: Potential rule changes for next season - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/15/21 01:23:38

Some historical rule changes/evolutions in college bb - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 13:53:55

Some incredible rules a long time ago, and also dumb. - GA Tiger MU - 4/14/21 16:00:56

1985 was a huge change with the advent of the shot clock - KC rules MU - 4/14/21 14:02:17

Response to Dean Smith and the fours corners - raskolnikov MU - 4/14/21 17:48:45

RE: Response to Dean Smith and the fours corners - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/15/21 01:25:02

RE: 1985 was a huge change with the advent of the shot clock - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 14:26:25

Or - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 14:30:03

Think of the impact the lack of a shot clock made on - KC rules MU - 4/14/21 14:57:40

RE: Think of the impact the lack of a shot clock made on - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/15/21 01:26:27

No sure how rewarding the ball to the defense in a held ball - KC rules MU - 4/14/21 13:44:39

True. How many times do we see a guy just jump on top of a - sprintcar STL - 4/14/21 14:42:03

I do not like the change that would reset fouls at the 10 - KC rules MU - 4/14/21 13:36:35

RE: I do not like the change that would reset fouls at the 10 - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/15/21 01:30:15

1 and 1 is classic, leave it be(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 4/14/21 14:48:54

thoughts - o'lineydisciple MU - 4/14/21 13:09:02

agree 100% with the time out change(nm) - TigerA MU - 4/14/21 13:11:48

Agree on coaches not calling TOs. (nm) - sprintcar STL - 4/14/21 13:11:47

Would make for some interesting coaching decisions on fouls. - sprintcar STL - 4/14/21 13:03:39

The wider lane is about spacing - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 13:13:49

RE: The wider lane is about spacing - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/15/21 01:32:22

Drives to the rim are inside play (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 07:07:10

So we need a rule for offensive players to stay further from - sprintcar STL - 4/14/21 13:17:04

It needs to be combined with a defensive 3 second rule. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 13:18:24

While on it's face I like the foul changes, i could see - MizzouAstro MU

- 4/14/21 12:51:09

Yea I like the NBA version of the jump ball rule - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 12:58:15

What useless silliness. Most of them are unnecessay and - GA Tiger MU - 4/14/21 12:44:17

So if the bonus situation for fouls isnt changed - TheRoyalTiger MU - 4/14/21 12:03:06

I do like the idea of declining FTs - MizzouAstro MU

- 4/14/21 12:51:48

Definitely agree with that one. (nm) - MNTIGER MU - 4/14/21 13:56:17

Probably a good reason these changes are stupid as hell. - GA Tiger MU - 4/14/21 12:47:50

Get is striped shirt GA - MNTIGER MU - 4/14/21 13:56:55

Could be a nice advantage for the team with the lead. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 12:07:12

Cuonzo zoom conference today - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 11:41:55

RE: Cuonzo zoom conference today - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/15/21 01:39:42

There’s video on both of them (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/15/21 08:53:54

*searches for old CM quotes about players he ran off* - LamarFrazier MU - 4/14/21 11:56:38

I predict Coleman to be our leading scorer next year(nm) - Eggs MU - 4/14/21 11:46:24

Coleman or Kobe, depending on whether Kobe improves his - MizzouAstro MU

- 4/14/21 12:53:34

Probably has to be 1 of Coleman, Davis or Kobe. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 11:49:07

Joplin to Marquette(nm) - blackngold MU - 4/14/21 09:42:01

I figured Joplin would follow Shaka, dont think Bates will - MU-TULSA MU - 4/14/21 13:44:53

I think OSU is the biggest competition - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 13:50:02

That’s 2 Texas commits that followed him - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 10:04:33

Make that 3 (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 10:42:09

Have any Tech players followed Beard to UT?(nm) - playhard KC - 4/14/21 11:08:32

Yes, there was one today(nm) - Mormad MU - 4/14/21 17:00:37

Followed Shak and stayed close to home(nm) - oldtgr MU - 4/14/21 10:02:31

No surprise there.(nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/14/21 09:48:01

Mizzou Sports Podcast - HSCoach STL - 4/13/21 20:01:32

That's a positive stat - must have been coached well(nm) - alstl MU - 4/14/21 10:46:50

RE: Mizzou Sports Podcast - tigerden MU - 4/14/21 07:13:18

I harken back to the offseason of 2008-09 - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 09:53:29

How dare you have optimism! - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14/21 07:31:04

solid melodramatic pouting(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/14/21 11:57:39

Good summary. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/14/21 07:54:10

While nobody has ever said something of that nature, its - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 07:52:10

sir.. I believe you are not reading the posts - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14/21 10:28:41

That is exactly what I am referring to - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 10:31:28

RE: While nobody has ever said something of that nature, its - tigerden MU - 4/14/21 08:22:23

I think he is without question a man of high character and - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 09:43:32

Don't recall anyone questioning his character(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/14/21 08:47:55

Calling him lazy and saying he's essentially stealing money - Cosmo MU

- 4/14/21 09:10:54

That is one guy, who watches Tucker Carlson as a serious - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 10:24:22

Ok? - Cosmo MU

- 4/14/21 10:55:25

Ok I agree that it is a perspective that is conveyed here(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 11:01:37

Totally agree and worse criticism has been posted(nm) - oldtgr MU - 4/14/21 10:21:16

RE: Totally agree and worse criticism has been posted - Third_Eye STL - 4/14/21 12:01:12

Totally agree with your comment(nm) - oldtgr MU - 4/14/21 12:17:53

Link?(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/14/21 10:31:37

RE: Calling him lazy and saying he's essentially stealing money - HSCoach STL - 4/14/21 10:12:02

i think that's pretty much one poster - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 09:33:46

The lazy thing isn't many posters I agree - Cosmo MU

- 4/14/21 09:39:35

not stealing just overpaid(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/14/21 11:59:36

Even though Mizzou finished exactly where his pay - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 15:15:42

Any coach that doesn't live up to expectations is overpaid - Cosmo MU

- 4/14/21 13:24:42

well he kinda is. i mean he gets a country club membership - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 09:54:33

RACIST!!!1111!!!11! (nm) - Cosmo MU

- 4/14/21 10:04:31

don't be silly. it's not a racial thing. nobody likes golf. - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 10:14:13

TIL I'm Asian (nm) - Cosmo MU

- 4/14/21 10:17:08

i always figured you had a little asian in you - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 10:26:06

Is Cosmo letting Tbone get it in while Wildcat is MIA?(nm) - NWMizzouFan KC - 4/14/21 11:09:24

Kim Anderson was a good man too. We should have kept him. - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 08:50:08

Different players, same CM, same system = same results.nm - FentonMizzou MU - 4/14/21 08:41:15

this may be in the top ten of most ridiculous posts i have - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14/21 10:31:15

your excuses for Martin are what is getting old(nm) - NWMizzouFan KC - 4/14/21 11:08:58

Not really. But go for it. (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 08:44:35

.594 win percentage over 13 years suggests otherwise(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/14/21 08:55:42

That’s better than Mizzou’s win percentage over that same - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 08:57:26

that's also Mizzou's worst period. so neat he's marginally - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 08:58:53

Quin, MA and Haith combined for a .61 - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 09:18:02

Please Stop with this "Huge Rebuild" Excuse - WrightWing MU - 4/14/21 09:41:22

this. although i'd say his first class was largely inherited - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 09:50:04

He took over a program that won less the 30% of its games - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 09:48:14

The rebuild is certainly not done, not even remotely done(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 10:04:50

The rebuild is just about complete. We will see who is added - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14/21 10:36:32

I do not agree with that point - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 10:38:35

How is Mizzou not close to a normal level? - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14/21 11:00:18

Here are our last 3 SEC finishes: 12th, 10th, 7th - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 11:04:58

Ok I disagree - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 10:09:13

We have accomplished nothing, the roster is in shambles, and - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 10:11:29

The talent was not good last year... - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14/21 10:38:04

It is almost certainly going to be the most talented roster - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 10:39:56

Why does it "doom us to failure" - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14/21 10:45:00

I definitely plan on watching all the games - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 10:49:30

Made the tournament 2 of 4 years - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 10:14:05

That isn't an accomplishment - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 10:18:45

It is an accomplishment..... getting in matters..nm - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14/21 10:38:39

We are rebuilding to very different end points - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 10:43:01

It is an accomplishment.. not the end goal - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14/21 10:58:25

Playing in the 8/9 game is not an accomplishment for an SEC - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 11:00:46

Mizzou has made the tournament 16 times in the last - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 12:05:26

Doesn't matter, doesn't make it an accomplishment (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 12:11:16

Makes it match the history - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 12:14:57

Pre 2014. So for people older than 10 or so (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 12:24:29

Even pre 14 most of Mizzou’s tournament appearances - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 12:33:01

Pre 2014 making the tournament was not considered - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 12:35:58

Then there’s been 3-4 successful seasons out of the last - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 12:45:01

You are equating successful with accomplishment - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 12:55:26

I’m just stating the baseline of what should be expected - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 13:16:49

And in this thread I was asked about accomplishments, and - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 13:49:32

It should be the standard that Mizzou coaches are judged by - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 14:44:21

Not accomplishing anything? I'd prefer the standard be that - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 15:29:23

Haith inherited a 2 seed. Though did a great job coaching - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 10:30:23

What are you talking about? Haith inherited an 11 seed team - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 10:34:07

23 wins and in the NIT. Means it wasn’t that good of a team - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 10:36:54

I agree, not a good season. But that would definitely - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 10:41:09

Really? An NIT team was better than 2 tournament - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 10:43:08

Our 2013-14 team was better than any we have had since - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 10:46:59

It was second in top end talent to the 2018 team - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 10:50:47

That team was way more talented than the 2018 team - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 10:58:08

it saddens me that there are people who believe simply - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 10:24:17

There seems to be a decent subset of fans who - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 10:28:00

After Haith and Anderson.. you have to start somewhere - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14/21 10:42:42

I get that perspective - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 10:45:20

I think that is a hugely underestimating the Coach - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14/21 11:03:05

I hope I'm completely wrong and proven a fool - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 11:06:51

It’s more the baseline for success - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 10:27:54

good grief (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 09:50:31

Is that not true? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 09:56:21

this is both lazy and naive - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 10:12:11

correct. CM is worse than all those guys - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 09:30:37

so for you, no matter what happens - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14/21 10:46:20

Really the program Haith inherited - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 09:36:55

in what perverse way is that? (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 09:47:33

That was your statement (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 09:48:53

sure (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 09:53:22

Yes, it's a massive rebuild, and it's been made longer - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/14/21 09:29:20

I have never seen this type of rebuild done in 2-3 years - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 09:34:04

Pearl did it. Wade at LSU did it. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/14/21 09:45:54

Being a program of filth like LSU and Auburn - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14/21 10:48:05

Pearl didn’t do it in 2-3 years. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 09:52:41

Okay. So why are so many fans of Mizzou so impatient? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/14/21 10:35:32

Because they see Kentucky and Duke do it every year - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 10:40:29

at some point they'll have to stop blaming KA for CM's lack - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 09:33:20

Phrejd... you really need to have some perspective - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14/21 10:50:30

I confirm I will never stop blaming Kim (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 10:06:36

"...for CM's lack of success." - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 10:16:31

I plan to continue blaming him for nearly all things (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14/21 10:20:16

that's fair (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 10:25:04

2 tournaments in 4 years is a lack of success? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 09:36:07

2 tournaments ending in first round losses in 4 years - Missiurifarmboy MU - 4/14/21 10:01:41

I agree, tiresome if it was over a longer period of time - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14/21 10:52:36

It’s been over a decade since Mizzou has a tournament win - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 10:08:00

And it's going to be another decade if we continue - Missiurifarmboy MU - 4/14/21 10:15:21

its not going to be another decade. Once again, the - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14/21 10:53:28

You can because it was done legally. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 10:17:39

stop using kim anderson as an excuse (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 10:13:13

That’s not just KA. It’s also MA and Haith - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 10:16:11

MA: 3 tourneys in 5 years, and 4 tourney wins - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 10:19:59

There wasn’t a postseason in year 3 - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 10:32:14

0 tournament wins in 7 years - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 09:46:50

That is a terrible argument to try to make(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/14/21 08:58:22

what makes you believe that's not the case? (nm) - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 08:49:13

Players make a huge difference - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 08:56:41

not really. but go for it. - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 09:00:08

Like when he had Cal a 4 seed with Brown? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 09:04:12

pretty sure that team won as many tourney games as i did - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 09:29:13

Except that team had injuries and multiple - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 09:44:55

was that kim anderson's fault too? just trying to make sure - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 09:52:51

Did he have his best players get hurt? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 09:57:40

yeah i already have that excuse noted. you've used it - phrejd KC - 4/14/21 10:27:17

So losing your best playes to injury does not have - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14/21 10:55:03

Even with an outdated scheme - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 10:34:28

Gordon’s turn for Mizzou Twitter highlights - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 19:55:08

This may sound mean to the old players but this rebuild - MU-TULSA MU - 4/14/21 07:26:03

I agree in the sense that these players match how Zo's - jlbomega MU - 4/14/21 08:15:13

Better athleticism may help fix the defense - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 08:54:42

What are you basing that on? We won't know how good or - playhard KC - 4/14/21 07:45:14

True everyone looks good in highlights - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 07:52:40

Looking at his stats last year at kstate - playhard KC - 4/14/21 08:47:37

What’s his role? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 08:52:50

Agreed. Though it was in an inferior conference, - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/14/21 07:56:03

Older mid-major transfers are typically good gets. It's like - Diamond Dave MU

- 4/14/21 08:50:59

You're telling me the big 12 is an inferior conference to - playhard KC - 4/14/21 08:48:50

Yes. They were clearly over-rated this year. NCAA - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/15/21 07:31:13

RE: Gordon’s turn for Mizzou Twitter highlights - Bump834 MU - 4/13/21 21:09:54

RE: Gordon’s turn for Mizzou Twitter highlights - HSCoach STL - 4/13/21 19:59:18

If his shooting percentages return to around his - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 20:07:23

RE: If his shooting percentages return to around his - HSCoach STL - 4/13/21 21:33:52

Mizzou offers 2022 recruit - Missiurifarmboy MU - 4/13/21 18:54:06

Another offer: Jonathan Dunn - Lavon MU - 4/13/21 19:31:27

RE: Another offer: Jonathan Dunn - HSCoach STL - 4/13/21 19:54:39

2 offers SIUE and SE Mo St? Really guys? Who ya selling?NM - FentonMizzou MU - 4/13/21 20:05:37

RE: 2 offers SIUE and SE Mo St? Really guys? Who ya selling?NM - HSCoach STL - 4/13/21 21:34:41

Then ALL D1 schools have missed him!nm - FentonMizzou MU - 4/14/21 18:06:08

Impressive offer list. (nm) - Lerxst MU

- 4/13/21 20:33:43

RE: Impressive offer list. (nm) - HSCoach STL - 4/13/21 21:34:54

I could make a highlight reel... - Lakers_Ball UK - 4/14/21 08:16:51

RE: I could make a highlight reel... - HSCoach STL - 4/14/21 08:47:18

Ok...Don't believe it. - Lakers_Ball UK - 4/14/21 08:59:21

Now you are jumping to conclusions - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 09:02:07

He’s a 6’7 athlete - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 08:23:15

And both ended up... - Lakers_Ball UK - 4/14/21 08:38:48

That’s because of KA. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 08:43:11

They both developed. - Lakers_Ball UK - 4/14/21 08:48:23

You are correct this is the type of player - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14/21 09:00:36

100% agree - Lakers_Ball UK - 4/14/21 11:51:06

I guess neither did any Top 100 coaches getting paid.... - Lerxst MU

- 4/13/21 22:00:35

RE: I guess neither did any Top 100 coaches getting paid.... - HSCoach STL - 4/13/21 22:21:38

Got it. What school was that? (nm) - Lerxst MU

- 4/13/21 22:33:59

Western Illinois - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 23:01:34

He will get more offers - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 22:09:59

Good to know you’re ahead of Musselman and Oats on... - Lerxst MU

- 4/13/21 22:16:30

The key for Mizzou is to get guys before they blow up - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 22:26:21

Fair enough. Might be a diamond in the rough. Might... - Lerxst MU

- 4/13/21 22:33:03

RE: Fair enough. Might be a diamond in the rough. Might... - HSCoach STL - 4/14/21 07:49:51

Haven't you figured out Abbott and Costello here yet? - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/13/21 22:51:28

Nobody said he was MJ. Quit making up ****(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 4/14/21 05:04:25

High school recruiting really is a huge guessing game - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 22:39:21

Funny the big programs don't seem to struggle with it like - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/13/21 22:52:33

The bigger ones are getting top 50 recruits - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 22:57:46

Exactly. Mizzou needs to win to get those guys - DevilsAdvocate KC - 4/14/21 04:59:14

No argument there. Just playing the odds my friend. (nm) - Lerxst MU

- 4/13/21 22:44:50

I remember last spring when Mizzou made offers - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 20:42:19

He will get more offers - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 20:08:41

Did he reclassify? Rivals says ‘21 - alwaysright MU - 4/13/21 21:39:52

RE: Did he reclassify? Rivals says ‘21 - HSCoach STL - 4/13/21 21:45:06

Yes was originally a 2021 recruit - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 21:44:59

He was on their AAU team - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 19:56:21

Oh my. Skillz and hops - Tptiger MU - 4/13/21 19:34:53

RE: Oh my. Skillz and hops - Lavon MU - 4/13/21 19:36:42

RE: Oh my. Skillz and hops - HSCoach STL - 4/13/21 19:57:09

Phenom University? - Tptiger MU - 4/13/21 19:10:29

AAU (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 19:11:04

Thanks for the info(nm) - oldtgr MU - 4/13/21 18:57:39

RE: Mizzou offers 2022 recruit - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 18:56:20

Mitch - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 17:33:05

What is JKC sports?(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/13/21 17:43:30

Agents - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 17:44:08

Gotcha, I thought it was some minor league for BB.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/13/21 17:50:44

Mitch isn’t going to start out at any upper level pro league - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 17:57:25

If I get consistent with my shot, I might make a lot of... - Lerxst MU

- 4/13/21 18:28:41

oh, you're 6'10 with a 7'1 wingspan and a 30 inch vert?(nm) - MizzouAstro MU

- 4/14/21 08:23:32

No you never will. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 18:35:06

Mitch has height - BlackSheep MU - 4/13/21 19:13:18

He’s a good athlete and fits the pro style. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 19:25:23

What makes him a good athlete? - BlackSheep MU - 4/13/21 19:45:22

You are making most of your assumptions - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 19:52:51

All my comments are based on what I saw - BlackSheep MU - 4/13/21 20:30:18

You should probably let the pro scouts know - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 20:38:28

Did the pro scouts watch every minute of every game? - BlackSheep MU - 4/13/21 20:51:12

So not a game from this season - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 20:57:08

What? Mitch only became a multi-position defender in 2021? - BlackSheep MU - 4/13/21 21:29:49

Mighty Mitch? What’s up with the hate? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 21:38:16

I don't hate Mitch the person - BlackSheep MU - 4/13/21 21:49:28

Not a D1 caliber player - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 21:51:32

If you think he is - BlackSheep MU - 4/13/21 21:54:40

He just spent 5 years as a D1 player - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/13/21 21:59:28

He just spent 5 years as a career backup - BlackSheep MU - 4/13/21 22:35:36

Link - BlackSheep MU - 4/13/21 20:52:36

No question. I though it might be a BB league comparable - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/13/21 18:09:12

Go Mitch........get the $$$$$$$$$nm - tigertix MU - 4/13/21 17:38:03

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