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Humans are mostly cooperative, not inherently cooperative

Posted on: April 15, 2021 at 09:46:49 CT

Mizzou Lou KC

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only the threat of jail, fines, or an ass kicking prevents us from drowning under our own garbage. Just look at the **** people already throw out of their trucks onto backroads, highways, rehab driveways. If they can't cooperate enough to take an old sofa and mattress to the landfill for $20, they sure as hell won't dispose of old engine oil, fryer grease, paints, solvents, pesticides, tires, meth labs, old cars etc....it only takes a small minority of scumbags to poison all of us.

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What I learned yesterday - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:10:50

What if it is just a dispute without - tman MU - 4/15 10:47:53

This would be a better question - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:56:59

I suppose that is solid - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 11:01:52

Why should every solution be fully thought out? - meatiger MU - 4/15 11:06:22

I am so very glad you posted that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 11:08:03

Also..who would be better at coming up with solutions - meatiger MU - 4/15 11:13:11

The natural goodness of man and their desire to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:53:35

smug troll too smug to learn (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/15 09:58:16

But he nailed this one - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:01:19

you misspelled failed (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/15 10:48:30

no (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/15 10:09:46

I don't see how anyone could disagree with that. nm - hokie VT - 4/15 09:39:57

straw man (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/15 09:24:29

and you pickle, are a lying man. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/15 09:46:03

i don’t lie, RHAY - pickle MU

- 4/15 09:53:15

It's been my experience, when someone tells me that, - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/15 10:32:01

link to a single lie and prove it, RHAY (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/15 10:51:36

I'm not playing the pickle/jg game. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/15 10:59:19

But in some ways you are - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 11:03:07

all i ask is that people be honest - pickle MU

- 4/15 11:17:01

yes, it’s a “game” to ask you to back up your claims - pickle MU

- 4/15 11:02:27

liar (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/15 10:49:09

Some people cannot comprehend that the government - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:29:12

How would private business have accountability without - Mizzou Lou KC - 4/15 09:54:55

You cite government created monopolies. Big corporations - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:59:17

As long as I get my F-22 I'm down(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 4/15 09:42:34

RE: What I learned yesterday - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:15:33

Ahhh, the purple headed lesbian gnome - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:19:11

Women work just as hard as the men do. They practice as - hokie VT - 4/15 09:48:26

And this is viewed in our woke world as wisdom - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:50:01

President Eleven of china would have to approve of NBA - hokie VT - 4/15 09:56:55

The hypocrisy of the NBA and their love of China money(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:58:01

RE: The hypocrisy of the NBA and their love of China money(nm) - Outsider MU - 4/15 10:00:28

Well, she does find other women attractive so maybe that - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/15 09:23:25

I find other women, no her, attractive. What's your point?(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15 09:41:34

RE: Well, she does find other women attractive so maybe that - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:27:40

She is the Danny DeVito of lesbian gnomes(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:28:29

Yes, it would but she knows that it is easier - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:22:36

If she desires to demonstrate clearly they should be paid - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:27:02

RE: If she desires to demonstrate clearly they should be paid - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:34:54

Humans are inherently cooperative. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/15 09:13:23

Humans are mostly cooperative, not inherently cooperative - Mizzou Lou KC - 4/15 09:46:49

Humans are inherently cooperative (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/15 10:35:41

Most all laws, rules and policies are in effect because of - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:48:56

They'd care if private businesses were allowed to - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:10:22

I agree and have maintained as much for a long time here... - Mizzou Lou KC - 4/15 09:58:25

So many corporate rules and policies are enacted because of - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:02:35

They are enacted to reduce lawsuits because government - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:11:31

At some point, you have to realize that government is - Mizzou Lou KC - 4/15 10:28:54

Our restriction on tights in the workplace had nothing to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:13:23

Why weren't they just fired?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:14:51

Because they provide value through the work they do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:15:51

So why couldn't they just be told to wear appropriate - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:16:52

Because there will always be those who make such choices - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:19:53

Not all of them. and this society ignores that totally. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/15 09:42:26

Yet the greatest challenges throughout history have not come - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:17:14

What is going on in Portland was created by government.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:26:05

And government (tax payer) funded - Razor MU - 4/15 09:46:14

Specifics would really help make your point stronger. (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:36:55

So the government is forcing those people to riot, burn - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:27:43

It is a reaction to government created problems.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:30:05

So this is how people prone to cooperation can be expected - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:31:11

another straw man (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/15 09:41:16

Do you understand there is no cooperation with - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:32:23

Who makes up this government you speak of? (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:38:13

A small body of wealthy people. There is a reason why - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:41:59

How then did AOC get to where she is today... - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:45:23

AOC was interviewed and selected by money people looking - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:53:34

Sure, but how did she get elected? She was running - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:57:22

She had the financial backing of wealthy people. Crowley - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:04:27

RE: She had the financial backing of wealthy people. Crowley - Outsider MU - 4/15 10:12:21

They are only presented choices of who big money selects(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:16:12

Money of course helps, which is actually another - Outsider MU - 4/15 10:20:47

I cooperate with the government all the time(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:33:22

You do because you dont want to suffer the consequences - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:13:45

At stop signs and stop lights, you are right. I comply - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:17:29

No, you comply. Gvmt is not a voluntary relationship (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/15 09:41:58

Who makes up this government? (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:46:42

He was just posting about his sheriff breaking the law to - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:43:10

he doesn’t want to listen and consider - pickle MU

- 4/15 09:54:53

Discretion has always been a key element of effective - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:45:37

That is exactly what we were talking about yesterday - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:15:07

And you cannot tell me how your proposed world would handle - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:21:04

That is not true at all - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:35:47

Discretion is not following the law. You don't get to use - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:56:36

And there are plenty that didn't - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:00:30

Was there any threat to safety - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:16:25

We don't know - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:22:54

Alleged - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:39:03

And if there are police that use discretion with white - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:09:06

I have never argued against the ills of anyone in authority - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:11:06

Oh, but that’s EXACTLY what you ask of libertarian solutions - pickle MU

- 4/15 09:56:05

Under the threat of force. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:36:21

I don't stop at a stop sign or at a stop light - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:43:30

Why do you get tags on your plates? Does your car not - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:45:15

It does and it would - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:46:32

If you don't stop, you can get ticketed. An example.. - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:52:19

And I always stop at those - not because I fear getting - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:03:37

What happens if it is 2am, no cars around and you are - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:07:14

If a light is broken, of course I would go through it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:14:52

And you simply sat there and took that act of - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:55:41

You just do what you're told. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/15 09:35:29

another straw man (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/15 09:28:38

It would be great if those business owners could protect - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/15 09:22:53