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What I learned yesterday

Posted on: April 15, 2021 at 09:10:50 CT

4TigersinMichigan MU

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In the eyes of some of our posters, I believe this is their answer to our current system of governance:

- people will voluntarily agree to private agreements
- these people agree to agree to the agreements
- in case of any disagreement there are clauses for handling those disagreements
- when they disagree on other aspects of the agreement they agree to agree to the clauses for when there are disagreements
- if they agree to agree to the clauses for when there are disagreements, they agree to agree to the decision of some third party "authority" they agree will help them reach agreement to their disagreements, but this authority isn't like other authority because they agree this authority is different
- no one will disagree with the rulings of the agreed upon authority because they have agreed to agree to the determination of this agreed upon, private authority
- All parties involved will honor this system because their reputation could be damaged if they are seen as causing problems

So as long as everyone agrees to adhere to the agreements that have been made, even when there is no longer agreement, there will be no problems.

What could go wrong with that?

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What I learned yesterday - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:10:50

What if it is just a dispute without - tman MU - 4/15 10:47:53

This would be a better question - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:56:59

I suppose that is solid - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 11:01:52

Why should every solution be fully thought out? - meatiger MU - 4/15 11:06:22

I am so very glad you posted that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 11:08:03

Also..who would be better at coming up with solutions - meatiger MU - 4/15 11:13:11

The natural goodness of man and their desire to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:53:35

smug troll too smug to learn (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/15 09:58:16

But he nailed this one - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:01:19

you misspelled failed (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/15 10:48:30

no (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/15 10:09:46

I don't see how anyone could disagree with that. nm - hokie VT - 4/15 09:39:57

straw man (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/15 09:24:29

and you pickle, are a lying man. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/15 09:46:03

i don’t lie, RHAY - pickle MU

- 4/15 09:53:15

It's been my experience, when someone tells me that, - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/15 10:32:01

link to a single lie and prove it, RHAY (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/15 10:51:36

I'm not playing the pickle/jg game. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/15 10:59:19

But in some ways you are - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 11:03:07

all i ask is that people be honest - pickle MU

- 4/15 11:17:01

yes, it’s a “game” to ask you to back up your claims - pickle MU

- 4/15 11:02:27

liar (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/15 10:49:09

Some people cannot comprehend that the government - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:29:12

How would private business have accountability without - Mizzou Lou KC - 4/15 09:54:55

You cite government created monopolies. Big corporations - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:59:17

As long as I get my F-22 I'm down(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 4/15 09:42:34

RE: What I learned yesterday - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:15:33

Ahhh, the purple headed lesbian gnome - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:19:11

Women work just as hard as the men do. They practice as - hokie VT - 4/15 09:48:26

And this is viewed in our woke world as wisdom - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:50:01

President Eleven of china would have to approve of NBA - hokie VT - 4/15 09:56:55

The hypocrisy of the NBA and their love of China money(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:58:01

RE: The hypocrisy of the NBA and their love of China money(nm) - Outsider MU - 4/15 10:00:28

Well, she does find other women attractive so maybe that - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/15 09:23:25

I find other women, no her, attractive. What's your point?(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/15 09:41:34

RE: Well, she does find other women attractive so maybe that - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:27:40

She is the Danny DeVito of lesbian gnomes(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:28:29

Yes, it would but she knows that it is easier - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:22:36

If she desires to demonstrate clearly they should be paid - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:27:02

RE: If she desires to demonstrate clearly they should be paid - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:34:54

Humans are inherently cooperative. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/15 09:13:23

Humans are mostly cooperative, not inherently cooperative - Mizzou Lou KC - 4/15 09:46:49

Humans are inherently cooperative (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/15 10:35:41

Most all laws, rules and policies are in effect because of - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:48:56

They'd care if private businesses were allowed to - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:10:22

I agree and have maintained as much for a long time here... - Mizzou Lou KC - 4/15 09:58:25

So many corporate rules and policies are enacted because of - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:02:35

They are enacted to reduce lawsuits because government - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:11:31

At some point, you have to realize that government is - Mizzou Lou KC - 4/15 10:28:54

Our restriction on tights in the workplace had nothing to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:13:23

Why weren't they just fired?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:14:51

Because they provide value through the work they do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:15:51

So why couldn't they just be told to wear appropriate - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:16:52

Because there will always be those who make such choices - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:19:53

Not all of them. and this society ignores that totally. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/15 09:42:26

Yet the greatest challenges throughout history have not come - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:17:14

What is going on in Portland was created by government.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:26:05

And government (tax payer) funded - Razor MU - 4/15 09:46:14

Specifics would really help make your point stronger. (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:36:55

So the government is forcing those people to riot, burn - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:27:43

It is a reaction to government created problems.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:30:05

So this is how people prone to cooperation can be expected - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:31:11

another straw man (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/15 09:41:16

Do you understand there is no cooperation with - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:32:23

Who makes up this government you speak of? (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:38:13

A small body of wealthy people. There is a reason why - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:41:59

How then did AOC get to where she is today... - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:45:23

AOC was interviewed and selected by money people looking - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:53:34

Sure, but how did she get elected? She was running - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:57:22

She had the financial backing of wealthy people. Crowley - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:04:27

RE: She had the financial backing of wealthy people. Crowley - Outsider MU - 4/15 10:12:21

They are only presented choices of who big money selects(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:16:12

Money of course helps, which is actually another - Outsider MU - 4/15 10:20:47

I cooperate with the government all the time(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:33:22

You do because you dont want to suffer the consequences - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:13:45

At stop signs and stop lights, you are right. I comply - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:17:29

No, you comply. Gvmt is not a voluntary relationship (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/15 09:41:58

Who makes up this government? (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:46:42

He was just posting about his sheriff breaking the law to - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:43:10

he doesn’t want to listen and consider - pickle MU

- 4/15 09:54:53

Discretion has always been a key element of effective - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:45:37

That is exactly what we were talking about yesterday - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:15:07

And you cannot tell me how your proposed world would handle - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:21:04

That is not true at all - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:35:47

Discretion is not following the law. You don't get to use - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:56:36

And there are plenty that didn't - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:00:30

Was there any threat to safety - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:16:25

We don't know - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:22:54

Alleged - meatiger MU - 4/15 10:39:03

And if there are police that use discretion with white - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:09:06

I have never argued against the ills of anyone in authority - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:11:06

Oh, but that’s EXACTLY what you ask of libertarian solutions - pickle MU

- 4/15 09:56:05

Under the threat of force. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:36:21

I don't stop at a stop sign or at a stop light - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:43:30

Why do you get tags on your plates? Does your car not - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:45:15

It does and it would - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 09:46:32

If you don't stop, you can get ticketed. An example.. - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 09:52:19

And I always stop at those - not because I fear getting - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:03:37

What happens if it is 2am, no cars around and you are - TigerMatt STL - 4/15 10:07:14

If a light is broken, of course I would go through it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/15 10:14:52

And you simply sat there and took that act of - Outsider MU - 4/15 09:55:41

You just do what you're told. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/15 09:35:29

another straw man (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/15 09:28:38

It would be great if those business owners could protect - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/15 09:22:53