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Beard didn’t follow that pattern but the other 2 did

Posted on: October 23, 2020 at 08:17:17 CT
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Barnes made the tournament in year 3 and 4, would have missed in year 5. Now in year 6 has a team that can win the championship.

Bennett made his first tournament in year 3, missed it in year 4. Then starting in year 5 has been very good every year.

There are lots of examples like this. Both of them after making the tournament had that to sell recruits and started recruiting better. That’s where the Porter injuries crushed Mizzou’s rebuild plans.
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Expectations vs reality - HSCoach STL - 10/22 18:04:39
     Define "middle of the pack" - ERB KC - 10/27 13:43:16
     What’s his record in the SEC? nm - MATO MU - 10/25 22:19:21
     He proved in Year 1, it takes zero time to rebuild in - North co-co champs MU - 10/25 09:46:34
     RE: Expectations vs reality - Pikespeaktiger MU - 10/24 17:24:37
          Top half of the SEC if things go right - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 19:22:58
     Are we weighting wins?(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU - 10/24 08:22:34
     Thought for sure you'd play the race card. Here are the - tigertix MU - 10/24 07:04:56
     I don't count his first season nor this season towards - TigerMatt STL - 10/23 22:29:43
     How vs What - alwaysright MU - 10/23 20:56:41
     There was no tourney last year, so really he’s made - itznotwillis MU - 10/23 15:03:44
     I think this team will suprise people - KC rules MU - 10/23 13:25:30
          It shouldn’t be a surprise - Bump834 MU - 10/23 14:10:17
     Not everyone is. I am satisfied that CM is making - jumbo73 MU - 10/23 12:36:31
     I'm with you. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/23 11:45:13
          Watson is really the only one that regressed - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 11:52:11
               Pickett regressed later in the season. We need Illini game - Uncle John KC - 10/23 15:04:59
                    I think he needs to play less. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 15:07:31
                         That's not very many minutes. (nm) - Uncle John KC - 10/23 15:33:24
                              If you get what you need from Mark, Dru and Kobe - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 15:41:11
                                   He's a much different player than those guys. I could see - Uncle John KC - 10/23 16:12:45
                                        He is a different player - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 16:19:55
               True. I was just thinking of him as a shooter. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/23 11:54:16
     we are middle of pack? - LamarFrazier MU - 10/23 10:28:34
          average finish of about 9/14 in the SEC under CM - zoomer 99 - 10/23 10:34:39
               4th, 12th, 10th - LamarFrazier MU - 10/23 20:04:20
     He's one of the worst P5 coaches in the country - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 10/23 08:41:36
          Let's keep starting over, that'll be fun(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 10/23 12:04:01
          RE: He's one of the worst P5 coaches in the country - HSCoach STL - 10/23 10:51:40
               I agree 100% here (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 10:54:53
          Let's say the injuries aren't a problem this year, because - Diamond Dave MU - 10/23 10:12:46
     his recruiting has been pretty bad - NWMizzouFan MU - 10/23 06:36:58
          Truth - Bump834 MU - 10/23 10:32:26
               Based on analytics he needed to be on the bench - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 10:34:27
                    Yes that’s the reason for sure - Bump834 MU - 10/23 10:36:51
                         I still think Jackson can to be really good - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 10:39:51
                              Last year build without question - Bump834 MU - 10/23 10:47:06
                                   They went into the season with the expectation - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 11:48:12
                                        And how did that work out for them? - Bump834 MU - 10/23 12:10:01
                                             He was still struggling at the end of the year - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 12:17:22
                                                  Because he got zero playing time - Bump834 MU - 10/23 13:33:15
                                                       Nearly all coaches want to win now. There's very little - sprintcar STL - 10/23 13:39:46
                                                            My point is - Bump834 MU - 10/23 13:56:45
                                                                 I go with playing time is earned not given - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 14:15:56
                                                                      Ok thx - Bump834 MU - 10/24 19:17:47
                                                                           Every coach I ever played for had that approach - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 19:21:33
                                                                                How many hrs a day are you on here? - Bump834 MU - 10/24 20:00:08
                                                                                     My phone says I spend just over an hour per day (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 20:17:09
                                                                                They say they have that approach and some actually do - Bump834 MU - 10/24 19:59:26
          He has played freshman a lot - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 07:53:42
               Note that DNPs don't count on avg. minutes. (nm) - mizzou john MU - 10/23 11:26:03
                    No way Jackson avg. 8 min/game he was dressed. (nm) - mizzou john MU - 10/23 11:26:22
                         Yea 3 of the 4 freshmen last season had a few DNP - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 11:29:27
               Note on Tilmon - o'lineydisciple MU - 10/23 09:41:54
               RE: He has played freshman a lot - NWMizzouFan MU - 10/23 08:15:47
                    He should have cut all of Anderson’s leftovers and started - Bump834 MU - 10/23 10:34:35
                         Disagree - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 10:37:53
                              Good for you - Bump834 MU - 10/23 10:47:29
                                   Look at the analytics on those players - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 10:53:48
                                        Who cares... - Bump834 MU - 10/23 12:10:37
                                             Coaches do, they want to win - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 12:14:37
                                                  His analytics are skewed - Bump834 MU - 10/23 12:17:20
                                                       He played in 26 of the 31 games - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 12:25:26
                                                            Would have been - Bump834 MU - 10/23 13:34:06
                                                                 If he knew what he was supposed to do maybe - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 14:25:54
                                                                      Still disagree - Bump834 MU - 10/24 19:19:20
                                                                           This is obviously something we won’t agree on - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 19:24:23
                                                                                Yes - Bump834 MU - 10/24 20:00:42
                    Especially stupid since he had no - GA Tiger MU - 10/23 08:58:21
                         The coaches were talking before the season like they - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 09:02:55
                    I just listed all the freshman minutes - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 08:20:08
                         Makes sense to me. Would you rather have - GA Tiger MU - 10/23 09:00:02
                         Most fans realize that playing Picket and signing Okongo - NWMizzouFan MU - 10/23 08:26:16
                              You don’t think the talent is significantly upgrade? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 08:43:22
     lackluster recruiting is what fans are most concerned about - zounami MU - 10/23 00:40:46
          RE: lackluster recruiting is what fans are most concerned about - HSCoach STL - 10/23 04:50:46
               are you blind? - LamarFrazier MU - 10/23 10:30:25
                    RE: are you blind? - HSCoach STL - 10/23 11:46:16
                         you mentioned stars - LamarFrazier MU - 10/23 20:06:57
                              That’s how players get their recruiting rankings - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 21:58:38
                                   now you care about rankings - LamarFrazier MU - 10/25 21:36:13
                                        No just about how players do once in college - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/25 22:06:18
                         That’s hard for most to get past - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 11:49:31
               I didn’t mind 2020. Mizzou had 1 senior - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 08:08:32
                    they should have been running off guys to get better - NWMizzouFan MU - 10/23 08:17:06
                         Both had good freshmen years though - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 08:21:53
     he is 22-32 in the SEC - meatiger MU - 10/23 00:04:17
          Compare that to what he inherited - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 02:54:43
               cool so he's not as bad as KA - LamarFrazier MU - 10/23 10:30:56
                    If Mizzou is still playing the next 2 seasons like - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 10:33:06
     Reality is - DollarSigns MU - 10/22 18:55:46
          Further reality is - zoomer 99 - 10/22 19:31:29
               RE: Further reality is - Genco98 MU - 10/22 21:49:32
     Mizzou fans cant stop living the dream of the 90s - zoomer 99 - 10/22 18:23:45
          Small fanbase - Genco98 MU - 10/22 20:24:29
               Well then they don't deserve a good team (nm) - zoomer 99 - 10/22 20:26:36
                    Yeah the arena is way way too big - Genco98 MU - 10/22 20:46:11
                         Yea Mizzou would have been better off with - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/22 20:55:07
                              Agreed (nm) - zoomer 99 - 10/22 20:55:48
                                   The problem is the era that Mizzou arena was built - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/22 21:04:00
                                        Alden was a fool and and idiot - Genco98 MU - 10/22 21:32:03
     I think he should be ready to win 20+ in his 4th season - Jeff85 MU - 10/22 18:22:32
          Around 20 wins in year 4 with a drop off in year - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/22 18:47:14
               Please provide examples. I'm a CM fan but this is B.S. - Sigma MU - 10/22 19:45:06
                    I have done so several times in past discussions (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/22 20:07:36
                         Chris Beard, Rick Barnes, Tony Bennett disagree. - Sigma MU - 10/23 04:55:25
                              Beard didn’t take over near as bad a situation - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 07:57:51
                                   What does this have to do with your statement about 5th year - Sigma MU - 10/23 08:08:53
                                        Beard didn’t follow that pattern but the other 2 did - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 08:17:17
                                             You have POSSIBLY 1 example and describe as norm - Sigma MU - 10/23 08:42:00
                                                  There’s 2 that you just brought up - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 08:44:44
                                                       You dance around facts, and then sprinkle half-truths - Sigma MU - 10/23 13:14:14
                                                            Since you brought up Beard I thought this might - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 15:06:11
                                                                 Misleading. Tubby last year increased avg. Take out - Sigma MU - 10/23 15:38:51
                                                                      What would you take out that year? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 16:22:48
                                                            How so, I have previously identified several schools that - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 13:18:08
     This will be good (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/22 18:08:06




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